More than 60% of Portland protestors didn't even vote

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  1. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    I am so shocked by this revelation. Not really.
     
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    Your headline is misleading. 60% of the arrested people seemingly did not vote (69 people). If they are anarcho-marxists, (the black flaggers who usually start the rioting and damaging in Portland and Seattle) they wouldn't vote. Neither would an anarcho-capitalist. It's just against their principles. Trying to equate these people to democrats is disingenuous.
     
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    Uh, so what?

    1) With the Electoral College, their individual votes don't decide the election.
    2) Oregon went to Hillary regardless of these people not voting.
    3) Hillary won the popular vote regardless of these people not voting.

    No matter how you slice it, this is not a case of lazy people being upset at the election result they caused, because even if every one of those protestors had voted, the results would be exactly the same.
     
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    I thought most of the conservatives here were smart enough to understand the difference between political radicals (e.g. anarchists and communists) and democrats. You should be able to tell, on policy the democrats are where the republican party was 40 years ago.

    The anarcho-socialist in me is sorely disappointed.

    And yes, I voted. What can I say? I am a pragmatist.
     
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    That's as good a sample as any, what exactly are these people protesting anyways? Losing?

    I'm sure if the KKK was showing up at right leaning riots you'd give the right a pass right? Not a chance.
     
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    You are confused.
     
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    While that's true as far as it goes, I think everyone should vote, even if your vote doesn't "count" in the electoral college system. Reasons:
    1. It gives you the moral high ground. If you voted, nobody can say you can't protest because you didn't vote.
    2. It drives up the popular vote count for your candidate. While popular vote doesn't win the election, it can be used as a "bargaining chip" in political negotiations. The winning party is on notice that they only have the mandate of X% of the population.
    3. Lower ballot races are important, too.

    And everyone, don't forget to vote in the midterms!
     
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    I think you might be, protesting a result when you didn't participate in the process makes you a fool.
     
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    you do know that Oregon was for Hillary though right? I love the fake outrage the pearl clutching going on here. the ones that were arrested were some of the anarchists.
     
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    When an anti-capitalist, anti-imperialist and anti-fascist runs for president, those folks might consider voting. When you're far left of Jill Stein, choosing a candidate that represents your values is a bit difficult.
     
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    69 out of probably a couple of thousand is a good sample? Maybe in Oompa Loompa land. If the KKK showed up, uninvited to a Trump rally I most certainly would give the right a pass. You have no idea of where I am on the political spectrum. DOn't comment like that till you do. Makes you look petty.
     
  14. Zombie Acorn thread starter macrumors 65816

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    We have no proof that 69 arrested were anarchists.
     
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    Sure. But as an anarchist that used to live in Portland, I can say with a decent amount of certainty that a larger proportion of folks arrested at a demonstration in Portland are radicals than in most other places.
     
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    No, but they are a specific subset of the protestors, namely those who were doing things that got them arrested. You can't draw any conclusions from them about the general characteristics of the protestors who weren't arrested.
     
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    I'm giving a trophy to Portland protesters for participating.
     
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    I get trimet (public transportation) about delays or how some light rail stops are closed downtown. I am only a mile away from most of it but across the river. They have marched on the bridge right next to my building but I guess I was too busy working see them.
     
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    Hmmm. Not sure if serious. As I posted in another thread, I live in Portland. The vast majority of protestors were regular people and non-violent. We then got a bunch of dickhead pseudo-anarchists that came in and ****ed stuff up. Unfortunate. That said, to the OPs' point - I'm sure a fair amount of the younger protesters didn't vote. Because they're young and stupid and perhaps because Oregon was probably not going R in any case...
     
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    If the Democrats are where the Republicans were 40 years ago; it seems the riots were inevitable, only the president they tizzied over changed.

    They're even stupider than I thought.

    I had a goal of moving back to Portland after residency. I have no such goal anymore; too many whackadoo's and it will be unbearable during a republican administration.
     
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    Oh good god, another trolling thread about protesters initiated by a click-bait 'news' report.

    Please read that report closely. First, the registration details of those arrested were checked within Oregon only. We can't be sure whether the protesters were registered and voted in other states (for instance, if they were college students). Second, even if the crass assumptions were true, 38% of those arrested did vote, compared to 42% of voters nationally, a whopping difference of 3%. So the headline should read 'Arrested protesters pretty much like everybody with respect to voting'.

    I condemn any of the protesters who engaged in violence or illegal disruption of traffic, but are we really going to spend the next 4 years on nonsense like this 'news' report?
     
  22. sim667 macrumors 65816

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    You also have no proof that 60% of all protestors didn't vote.
     
  23. Zombie Acorn thread starter macrumors 65816

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    I agree if the ones passionate enough about the cause to get themselves arrested only have a 40% voting participation rate who knows about the more timid protestors, maybe only 20%

    What can you expect from a crowd when asked why they are protesting respond **** Donald Trump.
     
  24. sim667 macrumors 65816

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    So you're guessing, and making a thread based on that guess?
     
  25. Zombie Acorn thread starter macrumors 65816

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    The thread is about a news report of 60% of dim witted leftists getting arrested protesting Donald Trump having voted, feel free to read the article in post 1
     

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