More than half of terror plots in Europe involve refugees and asylum seekers-Trump was RIGHT

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  1. darksithpro macrumors regular

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    Well, well... The truth comes out.

    http://www.heritage.org/sites/default/files/2017-08/BG3236.pdf


    "Germany. The increase in the threat to Germany is especially stark. According to Holger Münch, the head of the Bundeskriminalamt (Germany’s domestic central criminal investigation agency). Germany averted 11 attacks between 2000 and 2013.17 There were no plots in Germany in 2014, and only two in 2015. In 2016, this increased eightfold. There is a straightforward reason for this: In 2015, Germany took in over 1 million refugees and 2016 saw a surge in plots involving refugees."
     
  2. Raid macrumors 68020

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    12 out of 22 attacks = 54%. 12 out of 1.1Million refugees = 0.00109%
     
  3. darksithpro thread starter macrumors regular

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    1 attack is 1 too much.
     
  4. bradl macrumors 68040

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    You should be reminded of how the United States of America was formed. Yes, your very forefathers were the very refugees and asylum seekers that committed the same attacks on people here.

    But again, part of history everyone seems to neglect.

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  5. Breezygirl macrumors 6502

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    Not to mention all the rapes, robberies & overall crime they do. It's turning into a third world hellhole.
     
  6. Raid macrumors 68020

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    So is one gun murder. Proportionate problems should dictate proportional responses.
     
  7. GermanSuplex macrumors 6502a

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    George Carlin: "Slave owners who wanted to be free."
     
  8. Raid macrumors 68020

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    You mentioned them, do you have data?
     
  9. darksithpro thread starter macrumors regular

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    What's with all the deflections? Why not talk about the study?
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    Just google it, several articles of Muslim immigrants raping and sexually assulting European women.
     
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    Do you include my posts as deflections? They were facts included in the study but not equated on equal terms (percentages). The percentages indicate that the vast majority of refugees are not 'terrorists'. Canada took in 25,000 refugees and using the German rates we can approximate that less than 1 person (27% of a person) would be part of a terrorist cell.
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    Uh no that's not how the PRSI works.
     
  11. bradl macrumors 68040

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    You know the rules here. When called out on it, back up the assertion.


    I wasn't even touching that part, but that works as well. I was referring to the Natives here and what was done to them. Huge price for them to pay for the colonial refugee, and those "Frontiersmen" who were advancing the USA.

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  12. Breezygirl macrumors 6502

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    Funny they spout off lies all day and demand proof. Unfo
    Let me guess it should be backed up with a MSM fake news source.
     
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    Raid already did.
     
  14. Raid macrumors 68020

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    Who has lied? Also you are incorrect it should be backed up by fact that can stand up to scrutiny... regardless of how you interpret the source.
     
  15. darksithpro thread starter macrumors regular

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    Still doesn't change the fact that the majority of terror plots are from refugees and asylum seekers. It's still a significant risk to the people in those countries, as one attack can kill several innocent people.
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    This thread was backed up by that report. So what's the problem? Angry the truth came out?
     
  16. Raid macrumors 68020

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    Cleaned this up for broader perspective.
     
  17. bradl macrumors 68040

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    You're quoting the Heritage Foundation, which is already completely conservative slanted. Sorry, You'll need to try again, and from a reputable source, not someplace that is already trying to slant things to paint their viewpoints and stances in a better light. Raid's post stands.

    Better yet, how about backing up your data from a European source, as they are the ones directly affected, instead of some place completely across the pond, trying to spin things to their advantage.

    BL.
     
  18. darksithpro thread starter macrumors regular

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    So that means the slanted Liberal MSM cannot be trusted either, according to your logic.o_O
     
  19. Breezygirl macrumors 6502

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    Seems Raid... wants to shut down any other views or facts that don't back up his opinion. And we all have a right to decide for ourselves what are lies and the truth, people disagree all the time about it.
    No source is ever good enough right unless it regurgitates your views? The MSM and other sources hide and do not report what doesn't fit their narrative. But I'm sure you will just say that's not true either, what's the point.
     
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    I never said that, so good try with building the straw man.

    What I said was that if you're going to quote or bring up issues affecting Europe, then you would be better served using EUROPEAN SOURCES than something US based and conservative slanted to fit your agenda. Just from doing that alone, your agenda, let alone this thread, lacks base.

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  21. steve knight macrumors 68020

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    Well yes unless it is a crazy white guy with a gun then it is the price we pay.
     
  22. darksithpro thread starter macrumors regular

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    Yea, we all know that's what you wish for when an attack happens. Must be the liberal agenda these days...
     
  23. bradl macrumors 68040

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    In the world of journalism, reputation is everything. If you can back up your bona fides with the work you've done, then your name and your work carries weight. Conservative sources, who have been slanting everything to meet their views over the past 37 years or longer, have been basing a lot of their views on stats that they are spinning to make themselves right, instead of going out there and DOING THE WORK to prove themselves right.

    Again, reputation is everything, and the source in the OP lacks that severely.

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    Uh, you don't live here. I live here. You're wrong.
     
  25. bradl macrumors 68040

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    I know of a few first, second, third, and fourth graders, let alone a few teachers in Connecticut who wish it were "just that liberal agenda these days".

    Yet look at how quickly the gun lobby shut that down. Oh, wait: I digressed. The evil liberal MSM must be the only ones who can ever be wrong. :rolleyes:

    BL.
     

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