more voters see Obama as worst president

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Two years into President Barack Obama's second term, more voters say they are dissatisfied with his administration's handling of everything from the economy to foreign policy, giving him the worst marks of any modern U.S. president, a poll on Wednesday said.

In a survey of 1,446 registered voters, 33 percent said Obama was the worst president since World War Two, while 28 percent pointed to his predecessor, George W. Bush, as the worst, the poll by Quinnipiac University found.

Voters were split over which of the two most recent presidents has done a better job with 39 percent saying Obama has been a better president than Bush and, 40 percent saying Obama is worse
glad to see the last 2 major war criminals getting picked as the worst.
polls are meaningless, BOTH Bush & Obama should be in GITMO sharing a cell or turned over the countries they have bombed so they can stand trial there. impeaching does NOTHING, cLINTON GOT impeached & the man is out there giving speeches as if he is someone to be proud off :mad:
 

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glad to see the last 2 major war criminals getting picked as the worst.
polls are meaningless, BOTH Bush & Obama should be in GITMO sharing a cell or turned over the countries they have bombed so they can stand trial there. impeaching does NOTHING, cLINTON GOT impeached & the man is out there giving speeches as if he is someone to be proud off :mad:
Clinton's impeachment was a joke.

Also, saying he's the worst since WW2? It just goes to show you that they don't really know a lot about what our other presidents have done, or maybe they don't care. I'm not saying Obama has been great, or even good, but he certainly isn't the worst.

Edit: Same goes for Bush being the rank he is.
 

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Clinton's impeachment was a joke.

Also, saying he's the worst since WW2? It just goes to show you that they don't really know a lot about what our other presidents have done, or maybe they don't care. I'm not saying Obama has been great, or even good, but he certainly isn't the worst.

Edit: Same goes for Bush being the rank he is.
impeaching Clinton did nothing at all, man still served out his term.
 

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I was more saying that the reason for impeaching him was a joke.
lying under oath is a joke?
obstruction of justice a joke?

Yeah, he did lie in front of congress. The fact that said congress felt the need to launch a full scale investigation and waste tons of time, effort, and resources into figuring out if the president got a BJ from an intern in the Oval Office is totally beside the point.
 

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Yeah, he did lie in front of congress. The fact that said congress felt the need to launch a full scale investigation and waste tons of time, effort, and resources into figuring out if the president got a BJ from an intern in the Oval Office is totally beside the point.
agreed, that part should have been just between him & his wife, he decided to lie about it instead
 

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lying under oath is a joke?
obstruction of justice a joke?
Np, the investigation into him getting a BJ in the oval office was a joke. And that's what started it all.

Yeah, he did lie in front of congress. The fact that said congress felt the need to launch a full scale investigation and waste tons of time, effort, and resources into figuring out if the president got a BJ from an intern in the Oval Office is totally beside the point.
Time they could have spent, I don't know, legislating.

But, according to them, the sex life of the President was much more important.
 

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impeaching Clinton did nothing at all, man still served out his term.
Impeachment is a two-part process: Clinton was impeached as a sort of indictment, but when someone is indicted, they are legally innocent of all charges until convicted. Same with impeachment: they had to complete the process and convict him of the charges, which they failed to do. This is one reason the House has not attempted to impeach this president, they know the Senate (where the trial would occur) would not convict him.
 

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Impeachment is a two-part process: Clinton was impeached as a sort of indictment, but when someone is indicted, they are legally innocent of all charges until convicted. Same with impeachment: they had to complete the process and convict him of the charges, which they failed to do. This is one reason the House has not attempted to impeach this president, they know the Senate (where the trial would occur) would not convict him.
I thought impeachment was merely bringing charges or an accusation against a president and had nothing to do with whether the charges were sustained or not.
 

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agreed, that part should have been just between him & his wife, he decided to lie about it instead
I see it as stupid begetting stupid. He lied, no doubt about that. That's never a good thing for a president to do in front of congress. But what was it over? A hummer? It's not like the security and wellbeing of the United States hinges upon our presidents remaining faithful to their spouses during their term. Why was it taken in front of congress in the first place?

It was petty politics at its most petty. A show for the voters, rather than a search for justice.
 

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I see it as stupid begetting stupid. He lied, no doubt about that. That's never a good thing for a president to do in front of congress. But what was it over? A hummer? It's not like the security and wellbeing of the United States hinges upon our presidents remaining faithful to their spouses during their term. Why was it taken in front of congress in the first place?

It was petty politics at its most petty. A show for the voters, rather than a search for justice.
Partisan BS, the republican answer to getting back in the WH was *******look how bad the democrat is********* as opposed to ***look how good we are & what we can do for the Country********* in other words ****** we are the "lesser" Evil *******
BOTH sides play that stupid game & the low information voters along with the party loyalist buy it every freaking time
 

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By the way, Reagan was a much worse President than Obama... and I'm not even talking from an economic or social standpoint. I'm talking from a Foreign Policy standpoint where he helped to create a group that would go on to cause the deaths of so many people.
 

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By the way, Reagan was a much worse President than Obama... and I'm not even talking from an economic or social standpoint. I'm talking from a Foreign Policy standpoint where he helped to create a group that would go on to cause the deaths of so many people.
like Obama is doing NOW? Arming Al-queda, Syrian rebels, Libyan rebels, drone bombing civilians in other countries
 

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like Obama is doing NOW? Arming Al-queda, Syrian rebels, Libyan rebels, drone bombing civilians in other countries
Yes, Obama is doing a lot of horrible things. I still think the man that made the monster is worse than the man that's feeding it.
 

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lying under oath is a joke?
obstruction of justice a joke?
America: where we impeach the President for lying about a blow job but don't impeach the President who fabricates evidence that he then used to start a war that was responsible for the deaths of thousands of American soldiers and hundreds of thousands of civilians.

Gotta love America and it's backwards priorities.


This poll is hilarious too and just goes to show how much Americans only care about what's happening today and don't know **** about history. It's like when you read twitter after a football game and some guy makes a decent catch and everyone's like "OOHHHH BEST CATCH EVAAAAAARRR!" Yeah.. best catch ever.. today.


Obama's **** the bed on tons of stuff. He's pretty much become another republican on most issues since he took office. But there's no way in hell he's the worst President we've had since WWII. I'd give that one to Reagan easily.. his policies are what directly led to creating the economic climate that caused the massive recession of the past 7 years.
 

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Surely he isn't as bad as W Bush? I mean that guy was a complete moron.
WORSE, Obama was SUPPOSED to end the wars, close GITMO, instead he started sending love missiles into libya, armed rebels as he saw fit, sold out to wall street , crapped on the Constitution with the P-Act extension & passed the NDAA, you know pretty much the OPPOSITE of what he campaigned on

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What like Saint Ronnie actually did?
are you implying Obama is only TRYING & not actually "doing" it?
 

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Clinton committed perjury. In a deposition he clearly stated that he had never been alone with Monica Lewinsky and that had never had sexual relations with her. Paula Jones was trying to sue President Clinton for sexual harassment. His perjury helped to get her case thrown out saying that she was unable to demonstrate that he had a track record of doing it.

No bit deal, right? After all, it was just a little lie. Eventually, President Clinton entered into an out of court settlement with Paula Jones, paying her $850,000. On January 19, 2001, President Clinton agreed to a five year suspension of his law license.

Is it right for anyone, let alone a sitting President to commit perjury? It is amazing to me that anyone supports William Jefferson Clinton after this. Not only is it now known that he committed perjury, that he is an adulterer but also sexual harassment?

There is no doubt that the President Clinton committed perjury but in a party line vote, the Senate decided to not remove him from office. That's our system. If he's our guy or gal, circle the wagons. If it is not, gather the firing squad.
 
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No bit deal, right? After all, it was just a little lie. Eventually, President Obama entered into an out of court settlement with Paula Jones, paying her $850,000. On January 19, 2001, President Clinton agreed to a five year suspension of his law license.
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Getting your targets mixed up?
 

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Clinton committed perjury. In a deposition he clearly stated that he had never been alone with Monica Lewinsky and that had never had sexual relations with her. Paula Jones was trying to sue President Clinton for sexual harassment. His perjury helped to get her case thrown out saying that she was unable to demonstrate that he had a track record of doing it.

No bit deal, right? After all, it was just a little lie. Eventually, President Clinton entered into an out of court settlement with Paula Jones, paying her $850,000. On January 19, 2001, President Clinton agreed to a five year suspension of his law license.

Is it right for anyone, let alone a sitting President to commit perjury? It is amazing to me that anyone supports William Jefferson Clinton after this. Not only is it now known that he committed perjury, that he is an adulterer but also sexual harassment?

There is no doubt that the President Clinton committed perjury but in a party line vote, the Senate decided to not remove him from office. That's our system. If he's our guy or gal, circle the wagons. If it is not, gather the firing squad.
And Liebeck was awarded 640,000 dollars for hot coffee spilling on her lap. Yes, there was a defect in the cup and yes the coffee was actually hotter than it should have been. But 640k? And that's after it was taken down from the 2.7 million dollars it initially was.

Why do I bring this up, you might be asking.

The dollar amount, whether it be through settlement or awarded, does not really mean much of anything.

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depends on how you play with the numbers, if you want to go that way, more think that Bush was better than Obama:D
Well, that's because he was. I don't like those years, but Obama has proven quite well that he is actually to the right of Bush.

Yes, you read that right.

Obama is more right-wing than Bush.

I could explain it more if you'd like.
 
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There is no doubt that the President Clinton committed perjury but in a party line vote, the Senate decided to not remove him from office. That's our system. If he's our guy or gal, circle the wagons. If it is not, gather the firing squad.
It wasn't completely a party line vote. Largely, yes. Completely, no.

Specifically, the D's were party-line, but the R's weren't. Look here for the R's that voted "Not guilty":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_of_Bill_Clinton#Senate_votes
It's a live list, so you can sort it by Party and look for the yellow items under the R's.