MOSR: Apple Web Browser


bluecell

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David Hyatt, the creator of Chimera, has been at Apple for quite some time now. He's a great acquisition for Apple. I'm sure we'll be seeing an Apple-branded browser in the near future, among other things.
 

uberman42

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Sep 1, 2002
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And looking at his Blog it looks like apple is cracking the whip on his group to finish the Apple Branded Browser. No new post since 11.20.02.

You know apple will totally make the browser rock in 10.2 ...cannot wait any longer...
 

springscansing

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Seriously.. its embarrasing. IE crashes too much, and Chimera doesn't even have history or the ability to open images in a new window, and Mozilla's interface is a snail. They all suck!
 

bdkennedy1

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With Apple pushing it's technology apps, it's embarassing that they don't have a decent stable browser in OS X. Such an awesome OS needs to have its own browser and they know that.

Being subscribed to the Chimera news threads, the development group is painstakingly making sure it looks and acts like an iApp. They still have 3 point releases to go before 1.0 which should be released in the same timeframe as OS X 10.3.

There have been numerous feature requests from people in the threads and sometimes the Chimera team's reply is "That's not how Apple would want it."

I have no doubt Apple is involved in Chimera's development and Chimera will be in 10.3. Microsoft integrated their browser and got away with it, now Apple is going to do the same.
 

alset

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Nov 9, 2002
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Some people wonder why Apple would use Chimer technology for a browser. For those in doubt, I remind you that iTunes is really SoundApp with a new interface and better visuals. Apple loves to buy up technology that has been tested and proven.

One other note - was anyone else disappointed that OpenDoc didn't succeed? Of course, I know why it didn't work during it's time... But it's a great coincidence that it was brought up after I had been reminiscing about it, along with CyberDog, just today.

Dan
 

zimv20

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Jul 18, 2002
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o-p-e-n d-o-c is pronounced "longhorn"

Originally posted by alset

One other note - was anyone else disappointed that OpenDoc didn't succeed?
no worries, the document-centric approach has now been invented by MS and it'll make its way into XP soon enough.

so let's see, that's GUI, protected memory, mp3, the stack, client/server, spreadsheets... all things i've heard others say MS invented.
 

boobers

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Mar 25, 2002
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Originally posted by sparkleytone
sorry but i dont see it happening. chimera is fine...so is ie. just dont see it happening. ie crashes no more than its windows counterpart.
Don't be sorry man..they didn't hire hyatt for nothing.
 

Falleron

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I think it is very important that IE continues to be developed for the Mac. This is what PC folk will look for + if they dont find it they may think twice about switching (I know it depends on lots of other things but this is an obvious piece of software).
 

bluecell

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Originally posted by Falleron
I think it is very important that IE continues to be developed for the Mac. This is what PC folk will look for + if they dont find it they may think twice about switching (I know it depends on lots of other things but this is an obvious piece of software).
I disagree. I know more PC people who hate IE than like it. No one will really care. IE isn't something that people look for when choosing a platform.
 

AssassinOfGates

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Jul 17, 2002
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Originally posted by springscansing
and Chimera doesn't even have history or the ability to open images in a new window
Aren't you quite the pessimistic one?

Chimera does have a history with 0.6, plus it can open images in a new window through a minor inconvenience. Right-click the image, copy the location, and put it in the URL bar. Plus you just have to love the fact that chimera blocks popups, launches the fastest, doesn't force you to use its own mail and address book, and can choose between tabs and new windows.

The only thing IMO that it needs work on is with plugins such as MPG, MP4, PDF and Real
 

peterjhill

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Apr 25, 2002
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Originally posted by AssassinOfGates
doesn't force you to use its own mail and address book, and can choose between tabs and new windows.
People love to bash Microsoft. I hope that any Apple browser will include an autofill feature. I use it all the time, and it has kept me from using other browsers. IE rarely crashes on me, less than once a week under heavy use. Much less.

IE does not force you to use it's own mail program. When I click on a mailto: like, Apple's mail.app opens up. You need to make sure that your settings in the Apple Internet Control panel are set properly. Thus, IE also does not force you to use it's own addressbook, since there are no address books tied directly to IE.

I will look at Apple's browser, just as i look at all new browsers. I have IE, iCab, Mozilla, and Netscape installed on my computer, IE is my primary browser. It will continue to be, as long as it remains what I feel is the best browser for my use.
 

tompatros

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Dec 9, 2002
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They could make a browser out of a monkey, some flash cards and a blue highlighter for all I care, as long as it is W3C COMPLIANT. Please don't make all the designers + developers of the world have to worry about yet another browser with its own idiosyncracies.
 

dongmin

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Jan 3, 2002
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Originally posted by tompatros
They could make a browser out of a monkey, some flash cards and a blue highlighter for all I care, as long as it is W3C COMPLIANT. Please don't make all the designers + developers of the world have to worry about yet another browser with its own idiosyncracies.
Apple's really been into open standards lately, to set themselves apart from Msoft, so I think we're safe here.
 

rugby

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Feb 21, 2002
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Originally posted by alset
Some people wonder why Apple would use Chimer technology for a browser. for those in doubt, I remind you that iTunes is really SoundApp with a new interface and better visuals. Apple loves to buy up technology that has been tested and proven.
Actually iTunes was SoundJam from Cassidy and Green along with CD Master from Radialogic. Apple bought both proggies and combined them into the beast that iTunes is today.
 

Falleron

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Nov 22, 2001
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Originally posted by bluecell
I disagree. I know more PC people who hate IE than like it. No one will really care. IE isn't something that people look for when choosing a platform.
I know that lots of people dont like IE on windows. However, when you say the word Internet Browser you generally think of IE or Netscape (on the PC). Its a little different on the Mac because we are used to using different browsers. I use Mozilla 90% of the time + IE when I need to use Online stores (some dont work in Mozilla). I just think it is important to get full support from Microsoft in order to keep the Mac platform fighting. I know we could do without it, but I think it would be better to keep it.

Anyway, everyone will have a different opinion on this!
 

woodsey

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Nov 15, 2001
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Originally posted by alset
Some people wonder why Apple would use Chimer technology for a browser. for those in doubt, I remind you that iTunes is really SoundApp with a new interface and better visuals.

Actually, iTunes is based on SoundJam, not SoundApp!
 

Schlomo

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Jul 19, 2002
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Blog?

Boy.. I was hoping to find some juicy bits in that weblog.. what a snore it was to read.. I guess SJ and company wouldnt like it too much if he was talking about his project at Apple.
 

chmorley

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Jan 2, 2002
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Originally posted by springscansing
Seriously.. its embarrasing. IE crashes too much, and Chimera doesn't even have history or the ability to open images in a new window, and Mozilla's interface is a snail. They all suck!
Chimera has a history. It had been hidden, but it is now enabled in the nightlies (for about the past 3 weeks or so). It's all right.

Chris
 

Zaren

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Jul 21, 2000
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Chimera usability

The latest update of Chimera rocks.

I'd agree with that... if not for the fact that Chimera crashed on me one night, and hasn't managed to restart since then. It launches, shows the splash screen... and that's it. Force quit every time to get out of it.

This is Chimera 0.6, Dec. 4th build, running on 10.2.2. I'm now using Mozilla 1.2.1, which is a damned sight improved from the 1.1 beta I was running previously.
 

Taft

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Jan 31, 2002
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Originally posted by peterjhill

I will look at Apple's browser, just as i look at all new browsers. I have IE, iCab, Mozilla, and Netscape installed on my computer, IE is my primary browser. It will continue to be, as long as it remains what I feel is the best browser for my use.
I notice that you don't mention Chimera of Omniweb. Are you running OS X?

If you haven't tried Chimera recently, I don't think you are experiencing all of the best browsers out there. Its Mozilla, only without all of the crap you don't use anyway. Plus its faster. Give it a shot, you'll be surprised.

Taft