MP 7,1 Most won’t be able to afford a new Mac Pro

Discussion in 'Mac Pro' started by satchmo, Jun 1, 2019.

  1. CWallace macrumors 603

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    It will always be cheaper to build your own.

    And a Mac Pro will be cheaper than HP or Dell (already priced out a basic HP with lower specs and it is over $1500 more).
     
  2. bsbeamer macrumors 68020

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    The 8-Core may be enough, even for a lot of video people if that AfterBurner card can really do hardware acceleration as well as they claim with non-Apple software, like Adobe, Blackmagic, Avid, etc. If it's really just going to beef up FCPX and Logic, it's not going to help a ton and they'd be better off with multiple GPUs.

    No report on price of the AfterBurner card or if it's standard config option at all.
    No report on if standard GPUs work as secondary+ (assume yes) or if they REQUIRE Apple's config versions.
    No report on type of SSD.
    No report of T2/T3/TX chip.

    Let's wait for non-base config actual costs and actual specs. I'm sure a max'd system from Apple will be $40K+ but very few will be doing that config or need it. More will need multiple RED hardware or AVID HDX hardware or multiple GPU, which (likely) will be available outside of the Apple store.

    One thing is clear - Metal is the future of macOS. Embrace it or move elsewhere.
     
  3. MarkC426 macrumors 6502a

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    It was interesting that Otoy was listed in the software developers supporting the ‘new’ macpro.
    Currently octane (by otoy) only works with cuda.
    The display looked nice, until I saw the price......:eek:
    Even the stand is listed as $199.
     
  4. trsblader macrumors 6502

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    They've got some specs up including ssd speeds, and the inclusion of the T2 chip. Worth a read overall even without prices. https://www.apple.com/mac-pro/ and https://www.apple.com/mac-pro/specs/
     
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    You got it.
     
  6. lakerchick4life macrumors 6502a

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    now that the new Mac Pro has been announced what are the odds that the iMac Pro might go down in price, for me 4500 is way too much to spend, but if they slashed it in half, or even more Id buy one for me it would be more than plenty for my very first mac
     
  7. CWallace macrumors 603

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    Very unlikely. I don't see the Basin Falls W-2000 Xeons being any cheaper than the current Skylake W-2000s. DItto AMD's Navi-series Vega Pros.
     
  8. pastrychef macrumors 601

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    Companies can afford the new Mac Pro.

    It's the hobbyists who will find the cost restrictive. Honestly, how many of the people on this forum bought their MacPro1,1-5,1 new?
     
  9. bsbeamer macrumors 68020

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    Purchased my mid-2012 MP5,1 brand new. Upgraded beyond/after that purchase, however. Know several others here who did the same with MP4,1 and MP5,1. Not all companies have massive budgets. Those big studios and large firms have no problem pre-ordering 10+ of these machines. Smaller companies and independents are the ones who will weigh options and/or purchase entry-level with goal of updating throughout the lifecycle.
     
  10. pertusis1 macrumors 6502

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    I bought mine new on an Amazon pricing mistake, but I think you're right. The vast majority of hobbyist owners got ours on the used market, low-end, and built it up.

    I'm thrilled with what Apple has done with the new MP, but I'm pretty sure I don't need one.

    W'll see. My suped up 5,1 is still going strong. If it gets choked up, I'll be hard pressed to pass this up.
     
  11. Partridge macrumors 6502

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    I’ll be able to afford it 5-6 years from now when I pick up a used one.
     
  12. Kubat macrumors member

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    I bought refurbished 2009 4,1 2,26 with 24" apple display in 2009 for 4000 $, so...
     
  13. orph macrumors 68000

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    @hs204 back in 2006 £1700 was worth $2400 or so (well we paid vat at 17% back then so it kind of works out)
    sterling has taken a dive was almost $2 to a £1 at the time now sterling is almost in line with $$
    so your correct and just curancy confusion. inflation is a thing to, so 2-5% a year up in price.

    and now in the UK vat has moved from 17% to 20% and in america there may be a 25% tax? depending on where it's made (in china or not) and what the parts are.( im not sure how that works, im in the UK so not fully up on the america china thing)

    any way yep mac pro will be used in companies, they always cost about the same as a DELL of the same class (or used to back in the day) it's just amateurs/hobbyists that dont want to pull out £3,000+ for a computer.

    Give it 4 years and if apple go back to a yearly upgrade we may start seeing used ones drop.
     
  14. vladid macrumors member

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    My guess would be that most people who will invest heavily in this new architecture are not wasting time dicking around on MR forums.
     
  15. AidenShaw macrumors P6

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    I thought the stand was $999....
     
  16. kreasonos macrumors 6502

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    It's not for most. It's for professionals with professional budgets. I knew the price of it as soon as I saw it. Apple has consumer level products like the Macbook and Macbook Air. The pro machines are priced for pro budgets and I think that's fair.
     
  17. crjackson2134 macrumors 601

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    I did, (5,1) and it cost me over $3k in 2013.
     
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    For one.. I bought a 2,1 3,1 and 4,1 new when Apple still offered developers a discount on hardware. $2000 is one thing... $6000 with a 256GB ssd and a rx580... You gotta be kidding me.
     
  19. Jyby macrumors 6502a

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    Vasa mount is $200... Stupid stand no one will buy is $1000...

    Oh don't forget tax!

    Monitor w/ stand and Mac Pro
    $9,999 with 8% sales tax (~$800)
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    What new architecture? The one AMD is going to beat out in 2 years? You'll buy this only to have intel release a 48 core xeon you can't upgrade too.
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    Gahhhhh.... I hate you Apple..... I want a new Mac Pro so bad---- why does it have to be so expensive
     
  20. pastrychef macrumors 601

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    Did anyone really believe these were going to be cheap? Even a cellphone from Apple costs over $1000 and it doesn't have any PCI-e slots.
     
  21. Jyby macrumors 6502a

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    A pair of bluetooth headphones that don't sound better than the wired $30 ones goes for $200... Its all a propriety money grab....

    I bet all those Logic Studio fans are like so anxious for this... So many people going to go into debt for this...
    At least with your Apple credit card you'll get 3% is it? Then bite that 30% APR haha
     
  22. Flint Ironstag macrumors 6502a

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    Some of you must have a Kool-Aid IV drip. Please explain to me what makes the Macbook and Air unsuitable for professional use. I'm dying to hear.

    cMP was fairly priced, and as some mentioned earlier, even had BTO options for slow (2GHz) Xeons starting at $2k. nMP started at $3k. 7,1 starts at $6k, and the bill of materials doesn't support that price. Period.
     
  23. Jyby macrumors 6502a

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    Yeah so get this... the 28 core 3000 series xeon is $3000. So how much will the Mac Pro cost with one of those? I bet $10,000... Some BS right there.
     
  24. Gazember macrumors member

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    I can afford it, but no longer want it. Moved on. Who here finds six to seven years between product updates viable?
    Are you sure you want to trust your business with this sort of attitude toward clients?
     
  25. mellofello macrumors 65816

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    For the every man the mac mini with a EGPU is perfect IMO.
     

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