Motorola 7457 Upgrades

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001
    #1 posts rumors from a source "in the know" on Apple's 2003 chip plans:

    This information echoes some of the information from this anonymous source -- which also pegs the 970's successor to be due in Q3 2004.

    The only contradictory information we have is that Dual 1.5GHz PowerMacs have existed within Apple for some time now... but this does not give any indication to Motorola's ability to produce these in volume.
  2. MacCoaster macrumors 6502a


    Jul 15, 2002
    Washington, DC / Rochester, NY / Lexington, NC
    Motorola revving up?!

    Wow. Surge of speed in a short time. This is a first for Motorola in a looong time! :eek:
  3. edesignuk Moderator emeritus


    Mar 25, 2002
    London, England
    Sounds like good news, this should keep us going until the 970's are ready ;)
  4. bluecell macrumors member

    Jul 9, 2002
    So, what about all of those bottleneck issues?
  5. giovanni macrumors regular

    Jul 1, 2002
    sadly pathetic

    (apologies for my profound analysis!)
  6. mymemory macrumors 68020


    May 9, 2001
    Do you know what would be really bad?

    To have the money and not able to get a real 2Ghz Mac yet.

    I mean, I do not have the money to even afford a airport card, so, at this time I do not care much about the speed. What I hope is when I have the money Apple have the speed that I want. That would be good.
  7. clubsport macrumors member

    Jun 7, 2002
    So in July, we will have 1.8Ghz Macs. The only problem is that top-end PCs will be running at speeds of around 5Ghz by then.

    Geez Apple, can't you address the problem by dumping Motorola? IBM have stuff way better than this...
  8. vniow macrumors G4

    Jul 18, 2002
    I accidentally my whole location.
    let's just see what the bs meter has to say about that

  9. funkywhat2 macrumors 6502a


    Jul 14, 2002
    Re: let's just see what the bs meter has to say about that

    Oh yeah!

    Ever notice how every time that there is a planned update, the time for Intel to have faster processors gets smaller. For example, when the 970 was announced to be coming in at 1.8 GHz around August, there would be 4GHz Intel chips. Now, in July, there will be 5GHz chips. At this rate, we will have faster chips before we have them. (I hope that makes sense)
  10. vniow macrumors G4

    Jul 18, 2002
    I accidentally my whole location.
  11. Tiauguinho macrumors 6502a


    Mar 5, 2002
    The Netherlands
    Only now is Motorola woried about delivering the goods? WOW! The PPC 970 really did scared them! Way to go IBM! Big Blue will be kicking everybody in the ass with this chip!
  12. edesignuk Moderator emeritus


    Mar 25, 2002
    London, England
    Intel are gonna increase by 2Ghz in the next 6 months????? I don't think so!

    (I believe intels 'fastest' CPU currently is the 3.06Ghz P4)
  13. funkywhat2 macrumors 6502a


    Jul 14, 2002
    It nice to see Motorola has finally figured out that not everyone on Earth needs a cell phone (cancer-brick).
  14. theranch macrumors 6502

    Jan 3, 2002
    Atlantic City area
    getting tired...

    The rumors of these speed bumps and even the facts of the IBM chips don't help most professionals out right now. I'm going to be in the market for a new machine in about 3 months and with the prices and speed of what the pc market is putting out these days it looks like my pro machine will be a Dell or something similar. I love the OS and ease of use of Macs but at a pro level there isn't much to learn in switching to a pc.
    I need to get work done and not have to wait while a beachball spins.
    Apple should address the pro market seriously soon...(and I've read this same sentiment on this site over and over). I'm hoping that they surprise us BIG TIME this year...please.
  15. Phechs macrumors member

    Dec 27, 2002
    Motorola Worries

    I know I am not alone on this, but its frustrating that the most conducive OS for me to use is OSX, yet, I have to take the music as well as all the video and 3D work I do to a friends house to render on his WinDOZE box to render because its, yes, 4 times faster. Please apple I need some serious power, and with network rendering for video and 3D, and VST system link for the audio, I am not finding many reasons to buy anything but a PC for my next computer. Damn, it just hurts that Motorola is harming apple to such degree. I am a Mac zealot, but its getting really hard to defend a company that is so complacent........

    APPLE IF YOU ARE LISTENING, SCARE MOTORLOA!!!!! frighten them into getting off their @$$es please......pleeeeaaassseee.
  16. Catfish_Man macrumors 68030


    Sep 13, 2001
    Portland, OR

    ...afaict, they're just posting info off the moto roadmap that was leaked a little while ago, and guessing as to a few clock speeds (the roadmap wasn't quite so precise). The 7457 also has 512k L2 cache and a 200MHz bus.
  17. ktlx macrumors 6502

    Jun 5, 2002
    It will not be that bad. Intel has said that they plan to take the current Pentium 4 incarnation to 3.6Ghz early next year. They will not go above 3.6Ghz until they switch to the Prescott core which uses the 90 nm process. That part will arrive around 3.6Ghz and be able to scale to over 5Ghz. But I doubt we will see 4Ghz or above until late 2003 or early 2004. The economy is just not strong enough for Intel to move faster.
  18. Foucault macrumors 6502


    Dec 30, 2002
    Pasadena, CA
    Where's the G5

    What is the deal with these tiny upgrades for the G4 processor. The G4 is almost three years old, where the hell is the G5. Apple and Motorola needs to get their act together!!
  19. ktlx macrumors 6502

    Jun 5, 2002
    Re: getting tired...

    I hear you. I bought a dual 1Ghz PowerMac with the mirror drive doors. I love Mac OS X compared to Windows XP but the machine was just so loud and so underpowered it was terrible. I finally sold it and built a 2.5Ghz Pentium 4. I am very experienced so switching is not that big of a deal and I saved a ton of money.

    The only heavy duty work I do is with Photoshop and I don't know how Apple runs its "benchmarks". I have a 2.5Ghz Pentium 4 with PC2700 DDR and there wasn't anything the dual 1Ghz PowerMac G4 could do faster. Plus my PC is much quieter than the PowerMac MDD model.

    Apple right now is pretty sad. They have, in my opinion, the best desktop software available running on way overpriced hardware. I hope they fix that situation sometime this year.
  20. clubsport macrumors member

    Jun 7, 2002
    Re: let's just see what the bs meter has to say about that

    Shut up! I was trying to add to affect with my 5Ghz comment... :D

  21. mania macrumors member

    Jul 23, 2002
    arn don't you mean Q3 2003 for the 970 and Q3 2004 for the 980 according to the link you posted?
  22. MrMacMan macrumors 604


    Jul 4, 2001
    1 Block away from NYC.
    Intel's LAB's have 3.6 one running all the time... :rolleyes:
    (Not to mention Tom's Hardware's 'Uber-Óverclock 2003' 4.1 GHZ!!!' )

    But that 5GHZ is total BS.

    If this rumor is true it is definatly good news. I mean getting a good deal of clock speed fast is what we need intill the 'next-gen' chips arive.
    Maybe we can survive this after all. :D
  23. bousozoku Moderator emeritus

    Jun 25, 2002
    Gone but not forgotten.
    If Moto get their new manufacturing process working correctly, this could all be a reality. As it stands, I want to believe, but I have little faith in them, especially with the budget cuts.
  24. mchendricks macrumors member

    Jul 17, 2002
    Central Florida
    I don't know if anyone else feels this way, but I think Motorola needs to finally give us the chips that do it all. I'm tired of "new" G4 chips that aren't any better then the previous chips. Why can't we have:

    1) a chip with lots of clock speed - I know it isn't the most important factor, but most consumers think it is #1.

    2) a chip with maxed out cache on all levels - the newest 1GHz DDR is hampered by only having 1/2 the cache (L3) of the previous model. I know that power (read heat) is a concern, but that can't be the limiting factor.

    It seems like everytime an improvement is made, the last improvement is crippled - faster chip ->less cache->little real world improvement over last model. The only things that really help are the updates to the OS.
    I know that all of the problems aren't totally the fault of any one company, but each is to blame for the lackluster performance of the pro line (Moto - SPEED, Apple - faster bus speeds, blue-tooth, USB2, etc)

    I've been loyal for years and I don't mind paying a premium for the COMPLETE mac experience, but if we are going to have the best OS, why can't the powers that be realize that we also want the best hardware. Apple had been on the forefront of the personal computer evolution, why can't they be again?
  25. TMJ1974 macrumors member

    Jul 22, 2002
    and I thought AMD was bad......

    OK, I have stayed out of the processor debates on this board, BUT, what is the problem ?

    AMD has struggled to push the Athlon XP (a wonderful processor) to compete with the Pentium 4. While AMD might not reach the clock speed of Pentium, they have always stayed "just" within benchmark reach. They actually led for the longest time.

    The cell phone radiation must be having an impact on Motorola's thinking. You're not making money....ok, fair enough. But, you won't make any by allowing the processor's you make to become obsolete. You have to invest money to make money....have they ever heard of that?

    If this is true, 150Mhz increase will hardly enough to encourage someone to spend $3000 The rule of thumb in the PC world is that any speed bump under 200Mhz is not noticeable.

    Where is 266Mhz + FSB ?

    I can only hope Apple is going to leave Motorola to deal with iMac/eMac, and let IBM handel iBook/PowerBook/PowerMac/XServe.


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