My logic for buying the S4 over the HTC one.

Discussion in 'Alternatives to iOS and iOS Devices' started by Bankaimadness, Aug 25, 2013.

  1. Bankaimadness macrumors 6502

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    Ok so I haven't upgrade yet, but I would like someone here to challenge my logic because I really like the aesthetics of the HTC one.

    For a phone, I really like survivability. Especially a phone that can last for more than four years. One of the gripes I have with the HTC one was that it has a non-removable battery. At first, I didn't really mind since I can get portable chargers and what not. However, I then started to think about the long term quality of the battery. I would think that battery would start to degrade after two years.

    With the S4, I can easily just slap a new battery when the old one starts to degrade.

    I just want a phone that would last for four years and maybe potentially more.
     
  2. bmac4 macrumors 68040

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    I do get the logic, but do you honestly believe you keep a phone for that long? I mean 2 years is long enough, but 3 or 4 is a really long time for a phone. Also beyond the battery the software is something you have to think about. Both the S4 and HTC One will most likely not be supported for more than 2 years in terms of android. If you can deal with all that the battery I would think would be ok.
     
  3. Bankaimadness thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Well I was thinking that a phone that can survive that long would make for a good back-up phone. In cased something went wrong with your primary phone or what not.
     
  4. bmac4 macrumors 68040

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    Oh ok. Well honestly I would think the battery would be fine. I have a nexus S that was my primary phone for a while back a couple of years ago. Now it is a back up phone, and does just fine in terms of battery.
     
  5. T5BRICK macrumors 604

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    They're both good phones. If you're worried about battery replacements in the future, the S4 may be the way to go. Personally, I liked the audio quality on the One better, so thats why I went that way.
     
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    Lower SAR can be an added reason.

    Check Samsung's lowest SAR rating in my other thread.

    I guess I take back all those times I said anything bad about Samsung and their plastic backs or whatever.

    Safety first.

    And if you think abt it, a plastic battery cover is more practical than a metal unibody or glass back. Easier to replace them and easier to remove the battery from it. Metal dents. Glass shatters.

    I WAS WRONG, Samsung. I was shallow. Even if their phones dont look as sleek, they really do make better phones for the longer run...
     
  7. Vegastouch macrumors 603

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    Why do you need us to make an argument for you? You already said which you prefer.
    I'm not a fan of HTC phones for a few reasons and why I'm not interested in a One and thats just that. I don't need to be talked out of it but ive also yet to get a S4. I'm just not in a hurry but a One isnt on my list of possibilities.
     
  8. mclld macrumors 68000

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    Not sure why it is a big deal, get the one you like better.
     
  9. MRU macrumors demi-god

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    OP only you can decide as at the end of the day only YOU are using the device and know how YOU feel.

    Everyone here has subjective preferences, but just because someone likes Pepsi over Cola doesn't mean you have to feel the same way or even like either.

    Just pick what you will be happy with NOW, and worrying how a phone will behave 3-4 years down the line as a backup phone when your using something else as your primary - shouldnt really be a buying concern now. Its the next two years that are important. Pick whichever you think you'll enjoy the most for te next 24 months, not which one will hold a charge better when its sat in the drawer in 3-4 years time as a spare....
     
  10. blitzer09x87 macrumors 6502

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    agreed, but i dont think dragging the phone for 4 years would be a good idea. think about this, buy a mid-ranger and upgrade every year.
     
  11. maximus96 macrumors 6502a

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    the s4 will probably resell higher than the one...
     
  12. narutoninjakid macrumors 6502

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    Definitely S4, HTC has a reputation of not upgrading their phones so you will be happier. Samsung rolled out jellybean for the S2 just the other day. I don't really mind my Note 2 being plastic as I have a case and the plastic is not really that bad. Plus I heard some thing about the One's camera but its all up to you anyway.
     
  13. aneftp macrumors 68040

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    Do not buy a phone based on user replaceable battery if you think that will "prolong" the phone's usage.

    By all means by a user replaceable battery if you think you need a spare battery for long trips etc.

    But never assume the hardware will survive even by replacing a battery 3 years down the road.

    Case in point. Multiple reports of old Motorola Razr failures (failure to charge) even after replacing with official OEM motorola batteries.

    My friends Galaxy S failed to charge even after using a real OEM samsung battery.

    Even having Apple replace an old 3GS battery with official battery. That iPhone failed to maintain it's charge.

    So never assume user replaceable battery will prolong the life of a phone. Things will fail about 3-4 years of use.

    Plan on keeping your phone for 2 years, maybe 3 max.
     
  14. lsutigerfan1976 macrumors 68000

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    I think you also have to think about, is that technology changes so fast also. To keep a phone as a spare phone is fine. But realistically with technology changing so fast, in 2 yrs most of the phones now would be dated. So it would not matter (about the removal battery) at that point. Because you would just upgrade to the latest and greatest. But it makes sense to have a spare phone i guess.
     
  15. Breaking Good macrumors 6502a

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    How common do you think a fresh, new Galaxy S4 battery will be in two years?
     
  16. AutoUnion39 macrumors 601

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    I can still buy new Motorola RAZR batteries on amazon. Why wouldn't I be able to buy a GS4 battery then? Not to mention, the GS2 is 2 years old and they have batteries for them at Best Buy
     
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    SAR ratings literally mean absolutely nothing in the real world. The only reason they were advertised is because of media hysteria about how "dangerous" mobile phones are, all of which has since been debunked. Anyone claiming to get headaches or other health problems from using phones or anything else emitting radio waves is falling victim to the placebo effect.
     
  18. bearda macrumors 6502

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    So, I thought long and hard about the HTC One vs the S4 when I switched carriers a few weeks ago, and ended up going for the S4. Aesthetically it's less appealing, but functionally I'm pretty convinced it's a better phone (at least for me).

    The replaceable battery and SD card slot are nice, but in practice they weren't that significant. With Google removing support for putting things on an SD card my 32G card is almost empty. I use Google Play Music a lot, and I can't get music from it onto the card (if I could I'm sure I'd be using at least 10G, but as it stands I just stream a lot). I don't watch video on my phone (Nexus 7 is much better for that), so I don't load video onto the card. T-Mobile doesn't have the update to move apps to the SD card, so I can't do that yet (and I'm not sure I will, since I don't have a lot of apps I use infrequently I'd be willing to take the speed hit for using SD storage instead of internal flash on). YMMV, but for me the SD card is something I just don't use a lot. Battery life is good enough that I don't have to worry about swapping batteries, and ii'll probably be a LONG time until I have to worry about battery degradation.

    The S4 felt a lot more comfortable in my hand, though. Keep in mind I preferred using a bumper on y iPhone 4S because the hard edges bothered be there as well, but I overall didn't like the feel of the HTC One. The One was solid and well built, but as a device I was going to be interacting with a lot the S4 was more comfortable.

    I don't use a case on any of my phones, and although I'm not really worried about the Gorilla Glass 3 scratching I was a little concerned about the back of the HTC One showing wear. With the S4 I can just replace the entire back if it becomes unsightly, which is a win in my book.

    The S4 also supports wireless charging with the optional battery back, which I've really learned to appreciate after my Pre2/Nexus4/new Nexus 7. It's a little hard for me to consider a device that doesn't have it, really. If you order direct from Samsung and use the 50% promo code going around the new back will cost you about $20, and although it makes the phone a little thicker the more rounded shape and weight balance is a little better, IMO. It also adds a slight gap between the plane of the back and the lens of the camera, so if I you set the phone down on it's back you can't scratch the camera lens on a table.

    Software wise I'm more confident in Samsung continuing to update their devices than HTC. Although 4.1-4.3 are all fairly similar when something significant comes down the pipe there's a better chance the S4 will get it than the HTC One based on previous Samsung vs. HTC update timing.. Take that with a grain of salt, though.

    Most of the S4 software features are gimmicky. There are a couple that are genuinely useful, though. I'd rather spend 10 minutes trying out a dozen features and finding two that really help me out than not having the option, though. Smart Stay and (surprisingly) S Voice I use on a daily basis. Again, YMMV.
     
  19. Dontazemebro macrumors 68020

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    ^^^ The latest update allows for apps to be moved to SD card
     
  20. lsutigerfan1976 macrumors 68000

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    It transfers some things not all. At least that's what I have read. I went from an iPhone 5, to an htc one. I almost pulled the trigger for an S4. But for two hundred dollars for a thirty two gb smartphone. I couldnt pass that up. So i ended up going with the htc.
     
  21. bearda macrumors 6502

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    As I mentioned above:

    T-Mobile doesn't have the update to move apps to the SD card, so I can't do that yet (and I'm not sure I will, since I don't have a lot of apps I use infrequently I'd be willing to take the speed hit for using SD storage instead of internal flash on)
     
  22. verpeiler macrumors 6502a

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    Well, you could buy a sd card for 20 to 30 $ and would've ended up with even more storage with the s4 ;-)
     
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    I actually play around with the S4 alot here at my nearest mall that I live 3 min away from by walking.

    I'm starting to prefer my One over it.

    Lack of storage slot? 32 GB is enough for me and has been for the last 3 years since the iPhone 4.

    Lack of removable battery? I never really replace the battery anyway even with phones that have one. I already would move onto the next phone.

    Mediocre camera? It hurts a little but not as much as I would think as i rarely take photos anyway.

    Plus I find the One's SLCD to look nicer than Sammy's more saturated SAMOLED.
     
  24. lsutigerfan1976 macrumors 68000

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    I am not as familiar with android. But from what i read. Even with the update allowing ppl to install apps onto the sd card. It does not transfer all data to your sd card. So had i bought a 16gb S4 and threw in a 16gb sd card. Not all of my data would have been able to transfer over to the sd card. At least with the htc one, i know that all of my 32gb drive can be used however i want. But everyone has their own preference. I personally haven't had many issues so far with the htc one. And i have always had a gripe going from iphone to android in the past.
     
  25. verpeiler macrumors 6502a

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    Me neither; in fact the S4 was my first android phone with a sd slot. But it looks like you use your phone in a different way. I don't care much about apps, or at least I don't play large games in my phone. Most of my storage is used by music, and that's perfect with an SD card.
     

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