My school is filled with drug addicts--who knew?

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  1. iMacZealot macrumors 68020

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    I go to a private high school, and I've been oblivious to the drug scene. Yes, I knew it existed, but I can't believe how many people do drugs or deal them. I actually know a lot of dealers, and I didn't know they dealt until now. It just really surprises me since it's a private school and we're allegedly good Catholic kids, but I've been told that our school per capita does more drugs than our arch-rival public school by a significant amount. People tell me it's because we can afford them, I guess.

    No, I'm not a newfound drug addict-- far from it, and glad to be. I just never knew that drugs were bigger problems in private than public schools. I also don't know how these kids obtain these drugs in the first place. It's really staggering to me, for some reason.


    ...and this is my 2000th post. It's an odd topic, I know.
     
  2. motulist macrumors 68040

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    I have news for you dude, catholic school kids are usually the biggest rule breakers. It's a well known reputation and it is completely borne out in my anecdotal experience. Compared to the kids from any other type of school, Catholic school kids in general consume the most drugs, drink alcohol the most, have the most sex (i.e. are most likely to be slutty), have sex for the first time at the earliest age, smoke at the highest rate, lie to their parents and authority figures most frequently, etc. Now obviously these are generalizations and are not based on any scientific studies that I'm familiar with, but it definitely was my experience and definitely is the reputation that Catholic school kids are the most likely to do bad behaviors.
     
  3. Mord macrumors G4

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    When you say addicts do you mean coke heads?

    I can't imagine your school is filled with heroin or speed addicts....

    As for how people obtain drugs? it's really not difficult, you just need to socialise in the wrong circles.
     
  4. bartelby macrumors Core

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    Probably weed.
     
  5. Mord macrumors G4

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    He said addicts, don't get me wrong, I don't smoke and I hate the stuff myself but I don't consider it addictive.
     
  6. dukebound85 macrumors P6

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    are you really serious?
     
  7. Mord macrumors G4

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    Smoking tobacco is addictive, pot is not physically addictive.

    When I was at school pretty much everyone who was anyone smoked pot at least occasionally, only a few of them were cig smokers.
     
  8. iMacZealot thread starter macrumors 68020

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    Yeah, but it's not like they're that wild. I had no idea anybody I know did drugs until they told me.

    Marijuana is the one I hear about the most. Cocaine is definitely possible, and the others may be, too.

    Something I don't do. However, I think marijuana is legal for recreation use in my state of Colorado, though I don't know where you get it besides from a medical professional.
     
  9. Mord macrumors G4

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    Then basically what you're saying is that your school is filled with pot heads?

    ZOMG, what a surprise! who knew?

    As for where to get such things, Drug dealers. People known as criminals sneak large quantities of cannabis and other drugs from where they're grown/produced inside the country then distribute them across the country to smaller drug dealers who then sell it to smaller drug dealers ect ect until it ends up in the customers hands.

    I'm not sure exactly how things work in the US but that's roughly how things tend to work.
     
  10. bartelby macrumors Core

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    That's what I was implying.
     
  11. iBlue macrumors Core

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    Weed is not that big a deal. I was expecting you to say you caught a bunch of people snorting lines or shooting up in the bathroom or something... which isn't far from my own experience with high school.

    p.s. I agree with the sentiment of addiction and weed. It may be something you crave mentally "damn I wish I had a J on me" but not something you go into withdrawal symptoms over.
     
  12. Mord macrumors G4

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    I was being anal in an attempt to show up his miss-use of the word addict.
     
  13. dukebound85 macrumors P6

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    that is incorrect. when idiots like mason tvert still trying to get it passed in colorado legislation for it to be legal under the "SAFER" campaign

    they claim weed is a safer alternative to drinking and that the fines should be brought down to below those of alcohol

    well excuse me, i say they should harshen up the alcohol penalties...and yes i do enjoy drinking

    weed is legal in denver up to an oz (in possesion and not using i bleieve) if i remember but still illegal in colorado....meaning its illegal in colorado regardless what denver rules. i assume with that, you can still get charged by colorado law but not the laws of denver if you know what i mean


    what really pisses me off is this. cops dont do enough to stop the celbration of 4/20 at namely cu boulder....

    also even in ft collins, the CITY CLOSED DOWN public roads for the celebration of 4/20. even though it was a block, it was an inappropriate use of resources and when i pay taxes, i want the city to keep the roads open and if closed to LEGAL causes



    FYI, i live in fort collins, colorado and go to CSU. we have these pro weed guys campaign all the time on campus....makes me sick

    im gonna have to make sure on my facts but im fairly sure they are correct after hearing about it so much but correct me if i happen to be wrong

    SAFER's webpage http://www.safercolorado.org/pressroom
     
  14. Dagless macrumors Core

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    My girlfriend is Catholic and went to a proper Catholic school - it was a bit rubbish. there were a few pregnancies, lots of bullies, lots of drugs. Our school wasn't religious and we did have a lot of drugs but nothing like my girlfriends place.

    So just another +1 to the catholic school comment.

    Like I said our place was pretty bad for it. Every toilet stunk of weed or whatever they were smoking, if you ever really needed to go you'd hold it in and sneak into the careers building (a little bungalow of a building). Saw many a good person turn to drugs too. All quite late on too, like in year 10 or 11 (the 2 final school years in England) people would just take up weed, then ecstasy, then god knows what. But it was bad enough to really change a lot of good people.

    Then again this was about 5 or 6 years ago!
     
  15. motulist macrumors 68040

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    asked...

    ...and answered. If you didn't know that lots of your peers were doing drugs, then you really aren't at all aware of what they they're actually up to, because although high school kids are good at hiding their bad behaviors from adults, it's usually pretty well known among the kids about what your peers are up to. Have you ever hung out in a group of your high school peers when you're well away from school, parents, and other authority figures? Because they obviously aren't gonna do any bad behaviors where an authority figure can catch them.



    While possessing or smoking pot may (or may not) be decriminalized in your state, it still isn't legal. Decriminalization just means you'll get a fine instead of jail time, it doesn't mean it's legal. If the cops see you doing it they WILL bust you. Regardless of it's been decriminalized, it'd still be at least as illegal for people under 18 to smoke pot as it would be to smoke cigarettes. And I'm sure that growing pot and selling pot is still very much a criminal act. If your friends are smoking pot, then they're definitely not getting it legally.
     
  16. Mord macrumors G4

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    Oh, one thing that does genuinely scare the crap out of me is the growing popularity of meth, it's horrifically addictive and destructive, I've only ever come across people doing the stuff at dodgy gothic clubs myself.

    out of interest how prevalent is the stuff in US schools, no one did the stuff to my knowledge at my secondary school.
     
  17. dukebound85 macrumors P6

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    i agree

    meth is scary

    i remember when ecstasy was big around here circa 2000-01 time frame with raves and the like

    what to do what to do.......

    when i was in hs, heck even in college, weed is so prevalent youd think its legal here
     
  18. Mord macrumors G4

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    IMO the scariest danger of ecstacy is not overuse of MDMA but the fact that pills these days contain all sorts of crap like mCPP and meth, people even prefer these dodgy pills due to the epic tolerance they've built to MDMA through abuse, if these pills were not available they'd just have to learn to use MDMA responsibly every month or so instead of hammering it every weekend so it keeps working as they'd like it to and thus possibly get their life together during the other three weekends....

    I must admit to using MDMA infrequently myself, I just never touch pills.
     
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    My old high school is. I graduated in 1999, but even then the heroin craze was starting to catch on, and from what I have heard from younger siblings, there is a huge heroin problem there, and the school is about as rich as they come. Heroin is everywhere in that town it seems, the chief of police even died from a heroin OD....

    Basically a bunch of rich kids with 0 parental supervision and lots of time and money is a drug dealers dream come true.

    They cannot force drug tests on students, but they do everything but. If you want a parking space, you have to take a drug test. If you are in any sort of after school activity(including my "sport" the Academic Games) you have to take a drug test. It did kind of work out for me though, because the company I started working for right out of college demanded a drug test, and there were 2 different outlets of the company they used within a 5 mile radius....
     
  20. davidjearly macrumors 68020

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    Actually, unfortunately it is a big deal. The problem is the lack of research and the vast amount of misinformation on the topic.

    Whilst the biological evidence for a link between cannabis and mental health problems is limited (mainly due to the fact that cannabis use remains illegal in most Western countries), there is strong epidemiological evidence that cannabis may precipitate psychosis (transient or otherwise) in many individuals.

    Some other studies have also suggested that it can lead to the uptake of cigarette smoking in younger people who may not have regular access to cannabis.

    Also, as smoking cannabis is by far the most common method, the negative impact on the respiratory system has to be considered.

    So, I wouldn't say 'it's not a big deal', because the evidence we have suggests otherwise. However, we need more research to clarify this.

    To the OP: It has always been my belief that private schools are no better than public schools for many things, including drug misuse. However, I wouldn't put this down to it being a Catholic school at all. Religion has nothing to do with drugs.
     
  21. Dagless macrumors Core

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    Things never got too bad at our school. There was no heroin, although I spoke to one guy who did cocaine once. Quite a few pot heads, a few more smokers. One guy had LSD once and blew his mind out, not physically but he was just crazy afterwards. Used to go on mad shouting rages at teachers. Surprised he was never expelled! But I suppose LSD+15 year olds aren't supposed to mix.

    TBH I've never even heard of a heroin incident in our town.

    And is it just me or is meth not in the UK? Before I saw some US cop show a couple of years ago I didn't even know what it was. We mustn't be fans here?
     
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    Which is correct according to the latest scientific research.

    Drug Harm.PNG

    This is published in the Lancet which is a well respected medical journal too (source)

    I'm also not a big fan of drugs personally, but people should be allowed to take them if they want as long as they are fairly safe.
     
  24. Mord macrumors G4

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    Speed is the equivalent (aka amphetamine/dexamphetamine) it's far less addictive and far less harmful, it's predominantly used to just make dancing a little easier as full on raves are very difficult to get through without getting extremely exhausted, quater of a gram of Ampetamine through a night just gives you enough energy to dance through the night, it's not a painkiller though so you'll still start to hurt if you overdo it.

    It's not a drug you get "high" on unless you take a ton and there are far easier more pleasant ways of getting high, some people do get addicted to the stuff though it *always* leads to amphetamine psychosis if you overdo it which is why the stuff is illegal.

    Meth is basically like über speed, it is starting to get more popular though anyone with a brain would not consider taking it over speed at a night out.
     
  25. iJohnHenry macrumors P6

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    Pot grouped with LSD and solvents?? Haven't recently heard of anyone going blind because of pot. Quite the opposite, actually.

    Someone needs to get a grip.
     

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