There is something we learned from Vietnam. We make a distinction to support the troops this time, even if we are against the war. I think if we had gone in, did what we needed to do, and few or no one got seriously hurt or killed (like with Bosnia or Kosovo) we wouldn't have been so against it. There wouldn't have been time to question the motives. But since, as AB said above, we're kinda stuck there now, people want answers. The fact that we aren't getting them and all we do get are talking points is making things worse. Even forgetting the reasons for the war - lack of equipment, no exit strategy, cutting vets benefits... and tax cuts for the rich while we spend, spend, spend - we are stuck. I don't want to believe it's hopeless, but I don't see it getting any better anytime soon. I don't think anyone has any way to figure this out because there is no way out. We are stuck.jefhatfield said:some say we learned a lot from the vietnam fiasco, but he believes that after a certain time, people forget and we are, and will always be, doomed to repeat the past
perhaps it's just me but your posts kinda sounds weird to meleekohler said:I really am surprised there aren't more posts on this thread. Come on guys! We have somebody who's been through some serious stuff for all of us, I think everybody on these forums should be thanking you right now.
Just commmenting on the fact that Iraq gets discussed a lot in these forums. Given that this is someone with first-hand experience, I would think that people would be interested.takao said:perhaps it's just me but your posts kinda sounds weird to me
I think it's more likely to be the latter. If they were to take a city, the military would be more equipped to counter it by simply raze the place down felluyah-style (and so long for the civilians living there).tristan said:One question I and most people probably have - what are the trends in Iraq? At this point, it seems like we're not winning the war, which suggests that we may be losing it. Could the insurgents mount an offensive? Could an American base be taken by insurgents? Could entire cities or provinces be seized? Could the Green Zone and provincial government be overrun? Or is this destined to be a low intensity conflict for the next decade with peaks and valleys in casualties?
So sad and so true. I can't believe anyone would have the nerve to say that. If that would have been me, I would have made sure they wouldn't be talking for awhile, they got off lucky.Of course you know the whole problem sometimes with this country is everyone is almost too bent out of shape about politics. I was accused of being un-patriotic at a bar one night by a couple of people that I met through someone else. Why you ask? Because I was a Democrat. Nevermind I just got back from a war they would NEVER go to, but they were more patriotic then I was. You know I actually came home that night, I was a little drunk and I had a tear in my eye. You want to talk about hurting a persons feelings and getting to their bone? That is one way.