National Review comes out against college educated Americans

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    This is the same magazine that once published an issue called “Against Trump” with a bunch of essays from NR writers on why Trump should not be the GOP nominee. Now the magazine has gone all-in on Trumpisim. I fully expect their next issue to be Against Suburanites With College Degrees.

    Of course there’s nothing wrong with pointing out that not every one needs (or is right for) a four year degree. There’s nothing wrong with highlighting/promoting vocational or technical training. But that’s not what this is. This is pure pandering to a small slice of the population. William F Buckley would be ashamed.

    Republicans/conservatives can reach out to the so-called “white working class” without sneering at everyone else who used to make up the Republican Party. In the 2018 mid-terms Republicans got wiped out in the suburbs. This issue of NR is basically saying screw you to anyone who has a degree and works in an office. I don’t know how Republicans think this will build a party for the future. If anything it seems like it’s destined to keep Democrats in control for generations to come.

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    https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2019/08/12/
    The American Worker: An Introduction
    By RICH LOWRY
    Our authors sketch out a pro-worker agenda, which begins with a greater appreciation of Americans who don’t have four-year college degrees.

    College Does Not Make You a Better Person
    By CHARLES C. W. COOKE
    A lesson the Democrats have lately forgotten.

    The Return to Serfdom
    By JOEL KOTKIN
    Our egalitarian capitalist progress is fading, dangerously.

    What Is the Purpose of High School?
    By RAMESH PONNURU
    To prepare students for adulthood, not necessarily for college

    The Case for More Occupational Training
    By ROBERT CHERRY
    And fewer degrees.

    How Republicans Can Appeal to the White Working Class
    By JAY COST
    Historically, it has alternated in its partisan leaning.

    Worker Skills to Pay the Bills
    By KEVIN D. WILLIAMSON
    Conference rooms and spreadsheets do not a good job make.

    The Trump Economy 
    By ROBERT VERBRUGGEN
    There’s a lot for him to take credit for.
     
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    did it mean to say indoctrinated Americans...........................:p
     
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    So conservatives in the Trump era think people are stupid and can’t think for themselves?
     
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    IS That rhetorical? how much proof are you asking for?

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    welcome to Murika.
     
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    NR,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, who gives a crap?
     
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    As someone who wants healthy intellectual institutions supporting conservatism, I do.
     
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    The Age of Unenlightenment - brought to you by the GOP™. Because educated people think too much.
     
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    That’s most rural Americans to a T right?
     
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    Conservatism continues to embrace anti-intellectualism...I guess when you've gone so far, you might as well go all the way.

    I'd say I support this because it's probably good for Democrats, but I don't support the "dumbening" of America that accompanies this blind fealty to Trumpism. That doesn't mean I think everyone needs a four-year degree or that those without one are "dumb", but this kind of thinking (if you can call it that) that puts the educated and the educational institutions in the "enemy tribe" is part of a larger trend that I think will be worse for this country in the long-run, regardless of who is in the Oval Office.
     
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    name one college.........
    --- Post Merged, Jul 26, 2019 ---
    pretty sure all who voted for Hillary are all over the place............
     
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    It’s like Republicans & conservatives decided to ape the Democrats and the Left but 180 degrees in the opposite direction. So Obama had distain for those who cling to their guns and religion, well then we’ll have distain for people who live on the coasts or are college educated. So dumb.
     
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    It's all about resentment. Resentment put Trump in the white house. Resentment is also fleeting and no stable foundation for a political party.
     
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    You could find lots of conservative people in colleges back in a day. But Republicans went full anti-science and alternate reality. This is not a matter of ideology. This is a matter of adhering to basic principles in science.
     
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    you spelled "Hillary really sucked" wrong.
     
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    Global warming is not science.
     
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    Hilary was the status quo with sensible changes on climate change candidate.
     
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    You’re correct. Global warming is a concept. Climate science is a science.
    But don’t stop there. Medicine (vaccines), biology (evolution), physics (Big Bang, round earth). You can also take a look at the special edition the OP cares to share with us.
     
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    I’m not aware of conservatives being against vaccines.
     
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    The anti-vaccine movement might be the best argument for the "horseshoe" model of political extremism, with the most extreme ends turning toward, and even mirroring, each other.

    As a 2018 study of populations with the highest rates of "non-medical exemptions," the groups most likely to avoid vaccines existed not just in progressive cities like Seattle, Austin, and Portland, but also in notably conservative cities like Salt Lake City, Provo, and Houston. Researchers also found high rates of NMEs in rural areas as well.

    Moreover, the anti-vaccination movement has been supported by the current Gov. of Oklahoma, who told an audience: "I believe in choice. And we’ve got six children and we don’t vaccinate, we don’t do vaccinations on all of our children. So we definitely pick and choose which ones we’re gonna do."

    And, of course, as the president* babbled during the 2016 election: "We’ve had so many instances...a child went to have the vaccine, got very, very sick, and now is autistic. Autism has become an epidemic....It has gotten totally out of control."

    Coupled with the rest of modern "know-nothings," it's pretty clear that anti-vaxxers have nested into conservative psychology the same way they once did with the Montessori set.

    And, we see the very same logic honed to protect cigarettes and attack climate change research has been tuned to fight vaccines. It's really the same ideology, just tuned to the particular issue.

    In many ways, the National Review is the canary in the coal mine, and it tells us that modern conservatism has effectively won the argument that college students and professors live in the Ivory Tower, and just understand the real issues of real people. This is multi-decade long project that has born its terrible fruit.
     
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    In many ways this shows conservatives have obliterated their educated wing. It’s just low status people who don’t realise that while the Democratic Party is flawed at least they raise the minimum wage.
     
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    Well, it's more insidious than that. By selling the prosperity gospel, conservatives have instilled a "**** you, I've got mine" ethos, while attacking many of the ways that regular people get a leg up, including destroying unions, working to make college unattainable by cutting public university budgets, and cutting nearly every aid program they can.

    And, anyone who questions this is a socialist intent on destroying America.

    It's not that I think that all of the Democratic arguments are great—universal basic income and medicare-for-all for example—but that both of these policies are attempts to solve long-term endemic problems that are in part created by conservative policy makers along with corporate leaders.
     
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    BJU, albeit religious backed, it's still a conservative college that focuses on a variety of fields including STEM.

    And, no, it doesn't stand for Blow Job University. It's Bob Jones.
     
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    I’m convinced the base of the Republican Party is made up of mostly former Democrats. Culturally conservative but liberal on everything else. Whites who don’t like people who don’t look like them but also don’t want you to touch their Medicare and are perfectly fine with big government so long as they’re the ones enjoying the spoils or the government is going after those they don’t like.
     
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    You are Republican right?
     

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