NBC can't apologize fast enough for leaving God out of Pledge

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by Thomas Veil, Jun 20, 2011.

  1. Thomas Veil macrumors 68020

    Thomas Veil

    Feb 14, 2004
    OBJECTIVE reality
    File this one way, and pull it out the next time someone complains about how the media discriminates against Christians.

    It's kind of funny to see NBC apologizing so fast and so vociferously. You'd have thought they showed a full frontal of Anthony Weiner or something.

    But it's not funny, it's actually offensive, that they even think they have to apologize for something like that. I doubt very many atheists, agnostics, or plain old people who believe in separation of church and state, were offended the omission, whether intentional or unintentional. If anything, they would have been pleased. I personally am offended by their quaking-in-their-boots mea culpa routine. It's basically telling everyone else that believers rule, and everyone else has to kiss their asses.
  2. eawmp1 macrumors 601


    Feb 19, 2008
    Well, it IS the official Pledge of Allegiance (at least it's the bastardized version we've been stuck with since 1954).

    Unfortunately, this can be used as confirmation of the godless liberal media. True believers will focus on the OMISSION. The rest of us will shake our heads at the BACKPEDDLING.
  3. gkarris macrumors 604


    Dec 31, 2004
    "No escape from Reality..."
    I think an apology is in order...

    It's about Patriotism, and NBC is an American Company...

    See the reaction you get if, say, the BBC edits their National Anthem, or if an Islamic Republic decides to edit a prayer out of the Koran....

  4. DeaconGraves macrumors 65816


    Apr 25, 2007
    Dallas, TX
    Hate to say it, but NBC has no one to blame but themselves. Like it or not, "under God" is currently in the pledge. And deciding to remove it from a national broadcast is of course going to cause some consternation.
  5. IntelliUser macrumors 6502

    Nov 1, 2009
    Why does it matter?
    It's funny since they removed the only unpatriotic part.
  6. rdowns macrumors Penryn


    Jul 11, 2003
    Yeah, NBC has no one to blame but themselves. I wouldn't doubt it was done by an employee pissed over Ebersol's departure from NBC.
  7. Dont Hurt Me macrumors 603

    Dont Hurt Me

    Dec 21, 2002
    Yahooville S.C.
  8. skunk macrumors G4


    Jun 29, 2002
    Republic of Ukistan
    Sounds like a fine piece of guerilla editing to me.
  9. quagmire, Jun 20, 2011
    Last edited: Jun 20, 2011

    quagmire macrumors 603


    Apr 19, 2004
    I am all for the removal of under god from the pledge( and our currency or any other government material or building, etc) because I believe it goes against separation of church and state. The government should be neutral and stay out of any religious material. Sure by saying, " Under god" I can't say our government is promoting christianity because other religions believe in a god(s) as well. But, any religious material( doesn't matter if it is christian, Jewish, muslim, etc) has no business on our currency, government buildings, etc.

    Now what NBC did, I think they were in the wrong as well or at least the individual who edited it out because they had to know the storm that was going to arise from this and put their employer in a bad light( if this was just the action of one man/few people).
  10. iJohnHenry macrumors P6


    Mar 22, 2008
    On tenterhooks
    Even, dare we say, wishful thinking? :eek:

    Perhaps Sigmund would have something to say about this "slip"?
  11. citizenzen macrumors 65816

    Mar 22, 2010
    I'm all for removing the pledge, period.

    Loyalty oaths. Who needs them? I show my loyalty by obeying laws. That, IMHO, is all that is necessary in the "land of the free".

    That said, NBC was idiotic to have left that out. They should have known that there are too many people in the U.S. who take their loyalty oaths waaay too seriously.

    I hear they even make little children recite them.

  12. dscuber9000 macrumors 6502a

    Sep 16, 2007
    Indiana, US
    Me too. I remember doing it in elementary school and even then I was like, "WTF are we really doing this for?" And by high school I stopped because "under god" in the 'Pledge of Allegiance' to a country with 'religious freedom' is just plain stupid. Offensive, really.
  13. obeygiant macrumors 68040


    Jan 14, 2002
    totally cool
    A small group of jack-asses I'm sure.

    If you're going to show people reciting the pledge, don't edit anything out of it. DUH!
  14. citizenzen macrumors 65816

    Mar 22, 2010
    Misguided (because they didn't foresee the backlash) maybe.

    But jack-asses? Harsh.

    At least you didn't call them commie traitors.
  15. obeygiant, Jun 20, 2011
    Last edited: Jun 20, 2011

    obeygiant macrumors 68040


    Jan 14, 2002
    totally cool
    No. "Misguided because they didn't foresee the backlash," is like saying its only bad because they got caught. The words "under God" are a legitimate part of the pledge and shouldn't be taken out. Changing it should take place in Congress or the courts not with some producers on a coffee break. NBC also knows this which is why there was such a quick apology.

    The attitude that oaths are meaningless and a pledge is not worthwhile -- to your own country-- is baffling to me. There is nothing wrong with a little patriotism, especially with reciting the pledge. Do you also dislike apple pie and fourth of july?
  16. yg17 macrumors G5


    Aug 1, 2004
    St. Louis, MO
    The only mistake NBC made was apologizing to these bible thumping morons.
  17. afireintonto macrumors 6502a


    Jul 22, 2008
  18. KingYaba macrumors 68040


    Aug 7, 2005
    Up the irons
    I prefer pumpkin pie. :cool:
  19. CorvusCamenarum macrumors 65816


    Dec 16, 2004
    Birmingham, AL
    They don't want to lose any advertising revenue.
  20. CaoCao macrumors 6502a

    Jul 27, 2010
    Why in God's name would you air the Pledge of Allegiance and leave part of it out?

    damn atheists editing the Pledge...
  21. Andeavor macrumors 6502

    Aug 19, 2010
    Damn religious patriots editing the pledge:
    And here's a little fun fact for those nutjobs out there:

    The Pledge was supposed to be quick and to the point. Bellamy designed it to be recited in 15 seconds. As a socialist, he had initially also considered using the words equality and fraternity but decided against it - knowing that the state superintendents of education on his committee were against equality for women and African Americans.

  22. CaoCao macrumors 6502a

    Jul 27, 2010
    Yes the Pledge has been changed several times... by the government, which NBC is not
  23. Eraserhead macrumors G4


    Nov 3, 2005
    I doubt anyone would give a ***** frankly.
  24. Thomas Veil thread starter macrumors 68020

    Thomas Veil

    Feb 14, 2004
    OBJECTIVE reality
    But why should they have to edit in fear of the Religious Right?

    I can understand the argument from a journalism perspective -- show the whole thing, or don't show it at all. But the way the accounts of this story are phrased, it seems like NBC was afraid of the churchies.
  25. MadeTheSwitch macrumors 6502a


    Apr 20, 2009
    A mention of God in something like a pledge would be fine if we were discussing a theocracy.

    Problem is....we aren't. Doesn't work out so well when you have a melting pot of different cultures with different beliefs all living in the same place. Whose God is the nation under? Again, the U.S. is not a theocracy.

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