Nearly $1 billion in side deals by Gov. Brown

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  1. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-sac-jerry-brown-gas-tax-side-deals-20170409-story.html

    bribes to pass a tax w/o input from the people. these morons should be in jail
     
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  3. BoxerGT2.5 macrumors 68000

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    That's par for the course in politics. Squeeze the **** out of that turnip.
     
  4. steve knight macrumors 68020

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    is this not how politics have always been done?
     
  5. DrewDaHilp1 macrumors 6502a

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    So is the increase actually going to go to infrastructure or to certain "cities".
     
  6. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    Less than 2% cost increase to break a two year stalemate?

    Sounds like a bargain to me.
     
  7. jkcerda thread starter macrumors 6502

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    general fund, it's going to whatever they want and they can say they need more when that is gone.
     
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    Ohio? We have one trying to do raise registration but supposedly residents would get a card/token to swipe to take off the gas tax.
     
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    Yep, and we have been getting gridlock as we try to move away from it. So it's good to see it coming back.
     
  11. steve knight macrumors 68020

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    but hey if the roads are better less gridlock right?
     
  12. RootBeerMan macrumors 6502

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    Nope. Next door. No-one will be exempt from their plans. Owners of electrics and hybrids will have to pay more for their registrations than gas vehicles, since they don't pay much, if any taxes on gas. If they'd actually use the gas tax for roads they would likely not have to raise taxes, but that would be too much like logic for them.
     
  13. Chew Toy McCoy macrumors regular

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    Without doing any research, I feel this is like the 100th time CA has raised our taxes to pay for roads.


    Then I see them repaving the same roads over and over, ignoring the same road for years, or taking 6 months to repave 2 blocks.
     
  14. jkcerda thread starter macrumors 6502

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    our taxes pay for roads and we still have toll roads :mad::mad:
     
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    I'd rather have toll roads than gas taxes. As long as all the tolls went to maintenance and improvements of the roads. Years ago in Kentucky they had the Bluegrass parkway, from Lexington to Elizabethtown set up as a toll road and it was a pleasure to drive. Well maintained and scenic and not overly expensive. They removed the tolls some years ago and now the road relies on the regular state funding process for repairs. It's a crap road now and a pothole fest. User fees don't irk me hald as much as a tax, and a toll is (or should be) a user fee.
     
  16. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    None where I live. The only toll road I've ever encountered in California was Pebble Beach's 17 Mile Drive.

    Just one more reason that NoCal rocks.
     
  17. jkcerda thread starter macrumors 6502

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    You guys get snow. No thanks I'm happy with the hotter weather and just a sweater when it's "winter". Toll roads for me only apply when heading in/out of L.A
     
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    I want our roads fixed. But I don't trust tax money to be used for that purpose. Really I am worried about this money being used for the train boondoggle. I wonder if any politicians stop and think that you just can't keep raising taxes indefinitely?
     
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    How much are they? I haven't been out of LA yet and wanted to head down to Orange County tomorrow. Is there a California alternative to the east coast ez-pass system or do you have to pay the old fashioned way?
     
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    In OC, they got rid of the old fashioned toll booths several years ago. Now you just drive right through, they read your license plate and you log onto their website and pay within five days. If you don't, you'll be getting a ticket.

    As for how much, some of the toll lanes have variable pricing. I've seen it six bucks before. Other roads have fixed pricing, but because you can pass through multiple checkpoints along the way charging you each time, it can add up!
     
  21. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    Oh, woe is u.s. :rolleyes:
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    https://taxfoundation.org/comparison-tax-burden-labor-oecd-2016/
     
  22. jkcerda thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Here you go.
    http://m.ocregister.com/articles/toll-613904-fastrak-pay.html
    I am yet to get the fast track and the prices vary depending on how busy the fwy is
     
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    You guys always make living in southern California sound so appealing :confused:o_O
     
  24. MadeTheSwitch macrumors 6502a

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    It is appealing. It cost a lot to live here, but the weather, beaches and mountains are fantastic! But don't let me tempt anyone, we already have enough people here and don't need anymore. So with that in mind let me recalibrate a little bit....it's a hell hole! Stay out! Don't come here! You'll hate it! :D
     
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    It's been more than a couple years since I've been out that way but the only place I liked in SoCal was San Diego. I'm sure it's great out there but it's not great for me too many humans in too few square miles.
     

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