Need help deciding what to get, please read!

Discussion in 'Buying Tips, Advice and Discussion (archive)' started by davidc2182, Nov 21, 2003.

  1. davidc2182 macrumors regular

    Nov 8, 2001
    Sin City
    Well I'm almost done finalizing my new macintosh purchase, but I went to an apple store today and tested something random on the machines, and it was boot up time, why is it that the iMac 20 1.25 GHz inch and iBook 14 inch 1GHz G4 boot up faster than the Powerbook g4 1.25GHZ and the Powermac G5 Single or Dual 1.8?

    And about the graphincs on the iMac, if I want to play games am I going to be satisfied with the iMac 20 inch's GPU or is it too weak? What about the iBook's GPU?

  2. cpjakes macrumors 6502

    Aug 15, 2003
    Buffalo, NY
    Apples and Oranges

    The biggest question for you is portability. What do you want? If you ever want to not be tethered to a desk or take your work with you/game with friends, then the answer is obvious. I don't believe it is fair to compare specs on portables vs. desktops as power management and cooling issues can drastically mess with the numbers.

    As for the boot time on those machines, I wouldn't necessarily trust display models. They have been used by many people for various tasks, who knows what parts of the systems have been altered or what software has been installed. The iBook and iMac have not been on display as long as the PowerBook and PowerMac. I'm not sure how much routine maintenance is performed on these machines, so this is just a guess.

    And like many other Mac users, I rarely reboot my machines (other than Software Update on both my PowerBook 550 and PowerMac G4 DP 450.


    Edit: And as for your gaming question, I can't answer accurately because I don't own either machine, but it depends on your gaming. If you want to play Tetris, you're fine. But if you want to get into any FPS games (UT2003, Halo - when it arrives :), etc...) then you'll be happier with the iMac due to its larger graphics memory. It won't be a Radeon Pro 9800, but it should be sufficient.
  3. sparkleytone macrumors 68020


    Oct 28, 2001
    Greensboro, NC
    Rule #1: boot time does NOT matter

    Rule #2: boot time is INSIGNIFICANT

    Rule #3: UNIX does not boot fast

    Other than that, your major decision-maker is whether or not you need portability. If you want the best longevity for high-end gaming on the Mac, you will need a G5 with either a 9600 or 9800.
  4. pinto32 macrumors 6502

    Oct 19, 2003
    Made my first trip to an Apple Store this past Friday (WOW!!!!), and I noticed that the iBooks, eMacs, and most of the iMacs only had a few basic programs installed, while the G5's and Powerbooks were loaded with close to 30 programs....everything from Office, to Photoshop, to Dreamweaver, to Fireworks.....there's yout extra boot time right there....
  5. Sun Baked macrumors G5

    Sun Baked

    May 19, 2002
    Re: Need help deciding what to get, please read!

    RAM Check...

    The more you have the longer it'll take to do a cold boot.

    Plus the G5s may have some additional system checks in the boot process with all the additional hardware doodads.

    Sleeping and warm restarts get around the system/RAM check lag.

    So don't dwell on it unless you buy a dual G5 with 8GB and shut the machine down completely every time you walk away from the machine for more than 5 minutes.
  6. Dont Hurt Me macrumors 603

    Dont Hurt Me

    Dec 21, 2002
    Yahooville S.C.
    fx5200 graphics is about the weakest being made and the imac's video chip is just that, no upgrade path. its a great machine other then its slow cpu and video chip.

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