Or anyone that feels they can offer their advice. (may be a little long so I warn you all) Okay . Back in 2002 I completed a poster for this local independent movie. The people a part of making the film sought out an artist to do the poster after searching for some time they found me out through other folks. I did their poster better then they expected . A person who is behind the creation of the film told me it help them raise 5 thousand dollars . Not that it did it alone but that person told me that everyone who saw the poster started to become more enthused about the film so they plopped down some cash to help out the making of the film these people are big time spenders. I spent a lot of hours on that poster though I stopped tracking the hours after awhile because they never binded me to a contract. I figured hell Ill just ask them for some cash maybe 300 and be done with it. After finding out they they are now selling the poster making profit on it and me not seeing one cent and this being 2005 im a little perturbed as you can understand okay my bad no contract fine. Now the people at the helm of the film are trying to make a deal with me trying to give me my due compensation. ive talked to some folks who know more about business then I do and they told me that basically if I dont have a contract that that looks bad for them and that I shouldnt sell myself short . Like I always do. That my service in terms of art and design is very rare around these parts and there really isnt anyone that can touch me within probably a 300 mile radius . Whatever. . They told me I should ask for 4 thousand . 1 thousand up front (payments can be worked out) and the 3 thousand is differed and this differed 3k is dependent on the movie doing well . Meaning they get a distributor and they sell the movie more then what it cost them to make it . Profit etc. (specifics of this arent ironed out) . Point is . Im shooting damn high on this one and I think its fair for me . I know they will come down but thats fine. After I met with the guy dropping the cash he told me he wanted some time to think about it he was floored with what I laid on him understandably . This guy tried every trick in the book to minimize my service minimize my art minimize the fact that im talking too much money. I stayed grounded and told him im willing to work out with you all on payments for that 1k. the 3k is immaterial to you all because if you all dont do well you dont have to pay me that if you all do good then its no problem because they can afford it. So he asked for time to think about it or something calls me back the next day and says he wants to talk again that he has done some research. Okay so now im in the position of having to back up my side . This is where I need help . Am I in the right am I okay? Or am I in the wrong? If im in the right . Can you all provide me with some info to back up my position? Thanks for any help you all are able to provide. Understand that in now way am I trying to be an a hole about all this to them I just have a history of people ripping me off because im not business savvy like they are and some folks who care about me want me to stick my ground and ask for what I deserve from now on. Otherwise I could just ask for 300 (like I said) and be done with it. Thanks.