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Net Applications: 18% of Mac Users Have Upgraded to Snow Leopard
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You need to understand a lot of people couldn't give a toss about computers or the operating system it is running. They just use what is on the computer and to be fair, for the basic non-techy day to day stuff most people do, XP does the job well.
Perhpas not. It could still have been better and still reminds of Vista's launch.
Not sure why your comparison charts refer to Leopard vs Vista when it's Snow Leopard were talking about though.
I did upgrade but swiftly went back to 10.5.8 due to multiple software incompatibilities! While im keen to reap the benefits Snow leopard has to offer I cant justify it just yet if my current software is not compatible!
Happily back on 10.5.8 now!
Happily back on 10.5.8 now!
I have upgraded my only working machine to Snow Leopard a week after it was released. It took me a day to get everything up and running again (I did a clean install) and so far it has been great! Performance gains are good. It starts up a lot faster and fixes a few issues I had with Spotlight indexing for 2 minutes everytime I rebooted. None of the programs I use are affected by Snow Leopard. I use CS4, Path Finder, Expression Media etc.... I also use Maya and modo but haven't tested them yet. I had there were some problems with Maya. It has been a superb upgrade for me so far!
Do we need Snow Leopard
About the only thing you will get is the ability to run Windows a little faster. Some programs may need an Intel processor to run like Snow Leopard does. Many of those aren't as nice as the older PPC or Universal versions.
I'm still using 2 G4s as well as my Intel Mac Pro. I need to run Windows to run my tax prep & accounting company. I've been testing SL about everyday. I have not seen any improvements using it. Once in a while it seems as if there is an unexplained problem. This makes me one of those that have SL, but without my use of the new OS version to do any productive work would I be classified as a SL user?
My son has a G5 PowerMac that he runs his photo business with.
About the only thing you will get is the ability to run Windows a little faster. Some programs may need an Intel processor to run like Snow Leopard does. Many of those aren't as nice as the older PPC or Universal versions.
I'm still using 2 G4s as well as my Intel Mac Pro. I need to run Windows to run my tax prep & accounting company. I've been testing SL about everyday. I have not seen any improvements using it. Once in a while it seems as if there is an unexplained problem. This makes me one of those that have SL, but without my use of the new OS version to do any productive work would I be classified as a SL user?
My son has a G5 PowerMac that he runs his photo business with.
SL adoption seems to be right on schedule. I didnt expect the sort of numbers others did.
There is a significant population still on PPC computers, many are satisfied with their present Mac, professionals who dont run out to break compatibility with the latest OS and finally if it's only $29 bucks some may view it as an insignificant update.
This board's ferver for new products isn't realy represntative of the general apple population.
Moreover my installation wasn't simple. SL wouldnt recognize my RAID drives and many software bugs. I know several photographers who rolled back to leopard
There is a significant population still on PPC computers, many are satisfied with their present Mac, professionals who dont run out to break compatibility with the latest OS and finally if it's only $29 bucks some may view it as an insignificant update.
This board's ferver for new products isn't realy represntative of the general apple population.
Moreover my installation wasn't simple. SL wouldnt recognize my RAID drives and many software bugs. I know several photographers who rolled back to leopard
I know what you mean. To this day, I still hear some people say they switched back to XP after trying Vista simply because they didn't like the new look, and because Vista is supposedly more difficult to navigate.
Personally, I can't stand XP. It's older than sin, it's clunky, and the UI is outdated and ugly.
Although too early to chart, there really is no reasonable basis for comparing Vista's exceedingly low level of satisfaction to Snow Leopard's mostly positive reception:
Corporate Satisfaction 2008
I'm glad that you were able to find a chart from March 2008 before the release of Vista SP1 to Windows Update.
Especially considering the SP2 is the current release.
It's also nice that you used a source measuring corporate satisfaction, when it is well known that Vista has received a cool reception in the enterprise.
I'm glad that you were able to find a chart from March 2008 before the release of Vista SP1 to Windows Update.
Especially considering the SP2 is the current release.
It's also nice that you used a source measuring corporate satisfaction, when it is well known that Vista has received a cool reception in the enterprise.
The only problem with your erroneous presumption is that this chart has nothing to do with the second source listed. Had you bothered to view it, it lists Vista Home Premium and Home Basic. Vista's perception has changed little since the SP2 release.
iMovie '09 now crashes
Since my upgrade to Snow Leopard (10.6.1) and therefore QuickTime X, I can't get iMovie '09 to run consistently without crashing (<60 sec and crash, particularly if I play one clip, then move to another event and play another clip). I'd rollback if I could.
Since my upgrade to Snow Leopard (10.6.1) and therefore QuickTime X, I can't get iMovie '09 to run consistently without crashing (<60 sec and crash, particularly if I play one clip, then move to another event and play another clip). I'd rollback if I could.
The only problem with your erroneous presumption is that this chart has nothing to do with the second source listed. Had you bothered to view it, it lists Vista Home Premium and Home Basic. Vista's perception has changed little since the SP2 release.
Except this chart is from Changewave's survey also published in January 2008 and pre SP1. Which is not to say Vista's perception isn't poor because it is.
Original source:
http://www.changewave.com/freeconte.../2008/01/alliance-011608-PC-Round-Up.html#top
Still not sure what this has to do with comparing Vista's teething problems with Snow Leopard's though (other than I would expect Apple to fix SL's problems a lot quicker than MS fixed Vista's).
I can do everything I need to do on Tiger. I'm not upgrading till I upgrade my machine. and besides I never upgrade the OS till at least several updates have happened, say like 10.6.4 or so.
I glad that 20% of users are out there giving it a good road test.
I glad that 20% of users are out there giving it a good road test.
feels like an upgrade to me
PS id say 18% this fast is pretty impressive!
lets see if MS even comes close to that after a year. i dont think they EVER got that far with vista....
Whatever you say, dude.
I'm rolling back my macbook tonight when I get home. Too many problems and performance issues for me.
The only problem with your erroneous presumption is that this chart has nothing to do with the second source listed. Had you bothered to view it, it lists Vista Home Premium and Home Basic. Vista's perception has changed little since the SP2 release.
Please look again, I followed the *only* source listed. I didn't realize that you were appropriating material without attribution.
And it does apply to the Applehead chart....
There are also countless more people in the enterprise who are forced to still be using Windows XP, or Windows 2000, or even a Windows 9x release.I know what you mean. To this day, I still hear some people say they switched back to XP after trying Vista simply because they didn't like the new look, and because Vista is supposedly more difficult to navigate.
There are also people still using Tiger or Leopard.
While it's always a good idea to upgrade your operating system, a lot of people also operate under the "it just works" philosophy. Many people (especially older people) can get by just fine with, say, Windows 98, so why upgrade beyond that? If it does what you need it to do, then it doesn't matter how outdated it might be.
Also, both Apple and Microsoft often have very lucrative contracts with schools and other enterprises, meaning they get money no matter what version of an OS said business place might be running on their computers.
computers have been powerful enough to do almost every task for years. My mom and I both have 5 year old computers running vista that run ok. I get it free so I upgrade. For most people they upgrade when they buy a new computer. The windows upgrade prices are ridiculous. So no reason to upgrade.
Snow Leopard is VERY disappointing
I have 30+ years experience with computers. My first one being the good old Apple ][. Ah those were the days... when quality was more than a throw away line in a marketing campaign.
Also have played with Unix/Linux in my time and picked up a PhD in theoretical chemistry too.
I'm generally a pretty strong advocate of the Apple product line as most things are executed pretty well (although my experience as an early adopter of Time Capsule was less than pleasant).
Getting to my point - Snow Leopard whilst promising lots is a DISASTER. I was happily running under 10.5.x (where x was the latest) and life was pretty good.
Since updating to Snow Leopard I am getting reproducible and daily kernel panics. The clock & spotlight functionality doesn't work - I just get the color-wheel when I head "up there". Mail is flakey - with multiple copies of each email in the inbox.
In Australia we have the Trade Practices Act which basically says that when you sell something it should work as advertised. Well - Snow Leopard doesn't. It doesn't just have the odd bug - it is a very poorly quality assured piece of software.
I choose to pay a premium for Apple gear and expect to receive a premium product. This time Apple is well short of a pass mark. Snow Leopard gets an "F".
Will Apple please let us know when it's safe to get back in the water - it's important to acknowledge one's faults & not to hide behind a cloak of silence. Until then it looks like I need to roll-back to 10.5.x (hopefully it won't be too painful to up/downgrade).
A very unhappy camper...
I have 30+ years experience with computers. My first one being the good old Apple ][. Ah those were the days... when quality was more than a throw away line in a marketing campaign.
Also have played with Unix/Linux in my time and picked up a PhD in theoretical chemistry too.
I'm generally a pretty strong advocate of the Apple product line as most things are executed pretty well (although my experience as an early adopter of Time Capsule was less than pleasant).
Getting to my point - Snow Leopard whilst promising lots is a DISASTER. I was happily running under 10.5.x (where x was the latest) and life was pretty good.
Since updating to Snow Leopard I am getting reproducible and daily kernel panics. The clock & spotlight functionality doesn't work - I just get the color-wheel when I head "up there". Mail is flakey - with multiple copies of each email in the inbox.
In Australia we have the Trade Practices Act which basically says that when you sell something it should work as advertised. Well - Snow Leopard doesn't. It doesn't just have the odd bug - it is a very poorly quality assured piece of software.
I choose to pay a premium for Apple gear and expect to receive a premium product. This time Apple is well short of a pass mark. Snow Leopard gets an "F".
Will Apple please let us know when it's safe to get back in the water - it's important to acknowledge one's faults & not to hide behind a cloak of silence. Until then it looks like I need to roll-back to 10.5.x (hopefully it won't be too painful to up/downgrade).
A very unhappy camper...
I expect my machines to last well over 3 years - one lasted nearly 9. And how's this for modern OS on old hardware?
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Windows-7-Pentium-II,8110.html
While I am not personally affected by the G5 drop, I do feel it is a shame that things have come to forced obsolescence. My May '07 MacBook won't take full advantage of SL and I suspect the next OS will force me to upgrade my hardware.
Never mind - I'll keep this MacBook going until it is totally dead and see what's up for sale then. No new Apple hardware anytime soon...
Agree.Tiger may very well have been the best version of OS X ever released. (IMO.) Don't diss it.
Tiger works very well on a wide variety of platforms.
I'm currently dual booting Tiger and Snow Leopard with my MBP15. Snow Leopard has some nice features. But overall, I like the simplicity of Tiger.
sorry to hear that your particular configuration was not Snow Leopard happy.
I on the other hand with my mere 15 years of computer experience (with Windows, Unix and Macs) have installed Snow Leopard on just over 50 computers (a mix of desktops and laptops of various ages) since the release and not a problem in the bunch.
Well, 18% of all Mac users (PPC and Intel) to have adopted Snow Leopard (on Intel only, obviously) in only about 4 weeks is pretty good, when you consider the total number is in millions. Think we could say the same about Windows 7 come late November?
Well, 18% of all Mac users (PPC and Intel) to have adopted Snow Leopard (on Intel only, obviously) in only about 4 weeks is pretty good, when you consider the total number is in millions. Think we could say the same about Windows 7 come late November?
If you go by the same stats used for this piece then the pre-release versions already do. Pre orders are also extremely strong. That said, I doubt 18% will have changed over in a month because most PC consumers buy their machine with the OS pre-nstalled, not separately.
Two reasons maybe...
1) Like the above, someone makes a comment that gets challenged.
2) Whether you like them or loathe them they're just more interesting these days than Apple.
That Tomshardware.com story was quite interesting. I have a similar one...
I used to buy used Powermac Beige G3s dirt cheap, the 233MHz kind, rehab them, install MacOS X TIGER on them and sell them on Ebay! Given all the time it took to do this, it wasn't worth even doubling my money and was more a geek challenge and labor of love, but almost every Beige G3 I bought ran TIGER in a very stable manner as long as there was 128mb or more of memory & the hard drive was of sufficient size (in some cases it required 2 of those old hard drives). I sold almost all of them with Dual boot capability too, both MacOS 9 and MacOS X. People were completely amazed they could get a working Mac running OSX for less than $400 back then!
Wow have times changed.
Now, Snow Leopard doesn't even run well on the oldest INTEL Macs according to lots of the posts here and PowerPC is completely thrown under the bus.
No wonder the % number is only 18%.
From what I've read here, I don't expect it to climb quickly either unless Mac sales increase lots more.
Apple really bungled the whole Snow Leopard deal from start to finish, no doubt.
And to the fanbois here, the reason people are posting about Windows 7 is exactly because of what I just posted above.
While Microsoft is expanding support and compatibility, Apple is restricting support and compatibility and ticking off some long-time G5 owners who spent $2000-$3000 for their presumably powerful Macs.
Remember Steve Jobs' famed PowerPC "Megahertz Myth" reality distortion field sales pitch?
Well guess what? Most of the people who bought into that sales pitch probably won't be buying Snow Leopard whether they own an INTEL Mac or not if they still own a powerful Powermac G5 or iMac G5 too.
I think many people feel like they got conned, and even those who don't feel that way are disappointed to say the least at no G5 support in Snow Leopard considering how powerful these machines are and how recent they were sold by Apple, not to mention they're more powerful than many of the early INTEL Macs.
And to those who say, oh Apple needs to concentrate on just INTEL & PowerPC is dead, I'll say this... Apple has more cash reserves than most companies in the world right now. To screw over their loyal customers at a time when many don't have the money to buy a new computer is just beyond low.
Apple embarrassed Microsoft with MacOS X Tiger and to some extent MacOS X Leopard.
Microsoft has embarrassed Apple back with Windows 7 in comparison to Snow Leopard considering the Win7 compatibility and support.
PS: I can't wait for somebody to call me a troll, tick tock, tick tock...