New Bill to Shut Down Internet if Government Chooses

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  1. ChrisGonzales90 macrumors 6502a

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    Sounds like we are becoming like Russia or North Korea. I doubt it will ever happen though.
     
  2. appleguy123 macrumors 603

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  3. calderone macrumors 68040

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    Why do people read Gizmodo? And why not give the whole story in the OP?

    The purpose of this bill is to give the government the ability to protect against cyber attacks/cyber warfare. It was covered pretty extensively on NPR last week.

    This isn't about controlling what content we have access to or controlling the flow of information to the citizens of the United States.
     
  4. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    Of course not, I trust our government completely to use any power we give to them responsibly...













    not.:rolleyes: this is probably the same justification north korea and china use for blocking certain sites. They have to protect the country. Sounds a little too much like the patriot act.

    If the government needs to protect their networks they can just sever any connectivity to the outside world on their own computers.
     
  5. calderone macrumors 68040

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    Oh sorry, I posted that without my tin foil hat on. :rolleyes:

    Anyhow, it isn't about the governments networks only. There are many networks critical to the US that are not the governments, cell networks, the Internet, financial, etc.

    If attackers were successful in brining down those networks, it could cripple us. By allowing the government to shut it down before it is forced down, it allows us to protect that network and block the source of the attack.

    * puts on tin foil hat *

    Sorry about that, Lieberman must have been speaking through me. Yeah we are becoming communist!
     
  6. rdowns macrumors Penryn

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    Seriously. :rolleyes:

    That said, I look negatively on any expansion of the government's power. These disk weeds we elect always find ways to twist these things and take away more liberty and freedoms.
     
  7. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    All of which can make their own private contingency plans, government can stay the **** out of the way.
     
  8. 63dot macrumors 603

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    This sounds like a great thread title, but the story link seems incomplete.

    Two things can happen if the government, ours or another, cripples the internet.

    1) Our business world, as we know it will shut down and things will get worse in the economy

    2) We will have to rely less on the internet, we will become more productive since we won't have to spend billions on lost productivity on porn, online shopping, gambling, and spam, and I won't end up getting billed over and over for somebody's internet purchase from a state 2,000 miles away from me ;)

    I recently had an accident where I had to rest for a time and not do the internet or watch televison. So I went outdoors, walked, read, and pretty much had one of the best and most eye opening weeks of my life. My doctor said I have to take this time, recuperate, and slow down.

    It was great to see all the other things in the world that is not internet and speed of light stuff. The only place I go online anymore is Macrumors and maybe following a sports event and I am a much happier person.

    I went to local mom and pop stores which actually carry items you can touch and it has been years since I have done that and actually looked around. Wow, handmade stuff, and made locally, too.

    For the longest time, reality and shopping was pointing and clicking.
     
  9. admanimal macrumors 68040

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    I can't think of any reasonable situation where shutting down the entire or parts of the internet (whatever that would mean exactly) would be better than just cutting off the endpoints of the attack, i.e. either where it's originating from and/or its targets.
     
  10. calderone macrumors 68040

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    Which is exactly how it was explained on NPR. This is bill is being grossly misrepresented.
     
  11. niuniu macrumors 68020

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    I think we can all agree on principle that if the bad stuff really hits the fan, then yes, the government needs to be able to deal with it and deal with it fast. Whatever that situation is.

    The problem of course is this:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4292342.stm

    You rely on the government to not interpret and use laws in a way that is at odds with our civil liberties. Or in the case above, interpret or use it in a way that is plainly absurd.

    I definitely don't trust governments with these sorts of powers anymore. Governments are corrupt, politics is an art of lying, and therefore in my view the less powers they have the better - until, we can establish effective checks and balances.
     
  12. liamkp macrumors 68020

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    That sounds like China: The Great Firewall of China

    The government has the right to block tv stations and internet websites. Anybody heard of this?
     

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