New in-house monitor for the Mac Pro.

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  1. Ph.D., Sep 24, 2017
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    I was allowed a look at Apple's new in-house monitor for the Mac Pro.

    It is about 40", using the so-called "super-retina" pixel pitch of the iPhone 8 (3x, not 2x like the current retina), totaling 8k screen resolution.

    It's OLED, I'm presuming made by LG. It's very thin. The OLED is sandwiched straight to a glass back that is exactly like the iPhone 8's, in the silver color. I was told the choice of silver was to make the display fit into an office environment without being too imposing given its size. They had another mock-up there in the iPhone's "space gray" for comparison and I have to say they are right.

    There's a small "chin", bonded in aluminum, to keep the iconic iMac look. The chin contained a "phased array" set of small speakers and the facial-recognition hardware from the iPhone X.

    Although the speakers were small, when sitting in front of the monitor, the phased-array coupled with facial tracking made for a very detailed and immersive sound-stage. In a first-person visual environment (e.g. a game demo they had running), you could move your head to look around the huge screen and the sounds would follow and adapt as if in virtual reality. When sitting from across a room (like watching TV), the camera knew you weren't right in front of it, and the phased array effect changed to one of the new video sound standards (something I'm not knowledgeable about), which basically sounded like stereo to me.

    There was talk of a smaller version, which I sensed would be aimed at a next-gen iMac following this design language.

    So there you go. :)
     
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    I’m not sure I like the iMac chin...
     
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    So, it uses two DP1.2 adapters or an eGPU (just dont expect to play 3-D content on it)...

    I doubt it could arrive to the Apple Store, but the 27" 5K version with or w/o eGPU its a sure bet.
     
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    Well they have to put the speakers somewhere and FaceID makes more sense than TouchID in a display (and AIO like the iMac).


    I would expect Apple to also offer a 5K version and use the same chassis (with a deeper back) for the 2018 iMac refresh as the smaller chin maps to foxconninsider's comments on the next iMac refresh having a thinner chin and also coming in Space Grey (like the iMac Pro).
     
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    Couldn’t we just get two HomePods on either side ;)

    The LED and Thunderbolt Displays looked great IMHO, and didn’t have a chin similar to a huge forehead. I would love faceID on a display, that makes great sense, and I don’t think we need a bezel-less display either, just a reasonable frame.
     
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    Maybe a 5K 27" for the nnMP (-W) and the 8K for the mMP (-SP).
    Ph.D., were these panels true 10bit and HDR?
     
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    Are they looking at a single size?
     
  9. ManuelGomes macrumors 68000

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    Aldaris, I'm with you. I hate the chin on the iMacs, TBD was gorgeous and still is.
    Just make it that way
     
  10. flat five, Sep 24, 2017
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    40” ?
    that’s too big for me personally.

    sign me up for the talked about smaller version. :)

    (though i suppose 1@ 40” would work for me instead of my current 2@27”... especially if it’s 40” ultrawide .. however, one of my displays is wall mounted which i can easily move to point at other people in the room when need be..

    so yeah, hopefully there’s a smaller than 40”... with vesa mount interface )
     
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    Hopefully it will be more ergonomic than their recent monitors and the iMac by making it height adjustable.
     
  12. Ph.D., Sep 24, 2017
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    Yes, 10 bit dynamic HDR. They want every leading-edge feature in it so that the unit will be competitive for the next 5 years.
     
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    Sorry, your story lost credibility here.
     
  14. Ph.D. thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Sorry, no. It's a little too heavy for that. Besides, it's so huge that raising it higher makes little sense. It has an elegant tiltable stand.
     
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    It is lower that I want, not higher, to get the right height on current Apple monitors, so possibly the same on anything new. Surely an OLED screen as described is lighter than an LCD?
     
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    Thanks. Looks awesome.
    But 40" is a bit too much, for me that is. As a monitor, which is closer than the TV.
     
  17. Ph.D. thread starter macrumors 6502

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    You are in luck: It's already almost skimming the desktop at the bottom. The chin is small, btw. The glass is pretty thick and heavy, though.
     
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    I just hope those are real 10bit, not dithered.
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    it seems Apple is finally doing it right, if all this comes out to be.
     
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    That's what I thought too. But an iMac is 27" has huge bezels, and when I look at one I want more screen. Yes, 40 is huge, but it has no bezels (save for the chin) and once you settle down at it, it's awesome! The 8k resolution really makes it work, since 4k isn't sharp enough for a "retina" computer monitor at 40"

    The main problem would be placing it anywhere except facing a wall. Put it in "front" of your desk, and it just blocks everything.

    By the way, does anyone remember that first "huge" monochrome monitor that Apple made as a statement? How big was it? It seemed staggering at the time, yet now it would be considered mediocre or maybe even small in size. This is Apple's new statement.
     
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    fwiw, a 27" iMac, including bezels.. is roughly 30.75" diagonal
    (just checked ;) )
     
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    The features you are mentioning are pretty much what everyone has been guessing so it looks like you’re just repeating. If you did really see that monitor it would be very risky to post about it.

    There’s a 40 inch Philips monitor and people hate using it. Causes too much neck movement.
     
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    what do you mean, exactly, by 'in-house'?
    thx
     
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    Presumably Apple branded and styled to complement the Mac Pro 7,1.
     
  24. CWallace macrumors 603

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    Samsung just launched a 49 inch curved 4K display, so 40 inches is small. :)

    Dell's 8K display is 32 inches and that is what I expected. And while LG has shown a 98 inch 8K OLED television, the cost would be insane so they would have to offer smaller models, as well. And 40 inches would be the minimum acceptable size, so it makes sense as a base panel for an Apple 8K display.
     
  25. flat five, Sep 24, 2017
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    oh.. ok.
    so 'in-house' as in... designed etc in-house by Apple (as opposed to LG for example)

    that's likely the way it's meant.. there are some other, i suppose, less likely interpretations as well.
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    more info on why it's too big for me, personally.. it's physically too big for my desktop computing workspace.. not too big for me to work on.

    unless, i were to switch to a single display setup in which case, it would fit fine and i'd be able to make use of all the space on a single panel.. but, i currently use an iMac and as far as i'm leaning right now, will likely continue to do so.. probably an iMac Pro being my next desktop purchase.
    in which case, an iMac + 40" display just won't fit unless-> sledgehammer :)

    i imagine they'll make a display which matches that of an iMac for side-by-side usage..
    (could be wrong of course.. just that i think/thought they would do that)
     

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