New iPhone 5S Logic Board Shots Show Evidence of Fingerprint Scanner?

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by jsnuff1, Jun 24, 2013.

  1. jsnuff1 macrumors 6502a

    Oct 4, 2003
    It's been looking like a fingerprint scanner in the 5S is less and less likely, but the new logic board shots might shed new evidence that the fingerprint scanner will indeed make it in the new phone.

    Normally the iPhone 5 home button is connected via a two pin connector which is shown on the right pic. This is a simple two pin contact connector that just relays the on/off state of the home button.

    Looking at the same location in the new logic shot we see a 10 pin socket connector instead on the left pic. Now the only reason for this many pins is that something more advanced that carries data is connected to this socket. So this could be the fingerprint scanner that is integrated in the home button!

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  2. McGiord macrumors 601


    Oct 5, 2003
    Dark Castle
    Where you got those pictures??
    Couldn't it be something else besides the fingerprint scanner??? I am not that interested in the fingerprint scanner, but into something else more useful.
    I wonder...
  3. jsnuff1 thread starter macrumors 6502a

    Oct 4, 2003
    they are from the leaked 5S logic board pics MR posted earlier today.

    It could be for something else, but it would most likely involve some major modification to the home button, since this new socket is in the place of where the old home button connector was...maybe another alternative to a fingerprint scanner could be that the home button is now touch sensitive?
  4. 617aircav Suspended

    Jul 2, 2012
    No way apple adds this and maintains same price points.
  5. Spetsnazos macrumors regular

    May 3, 2012
    a fingerprint scanner can't cost that much...
  6. richardbb85 macrumors 6502a

    Dec 9, 2009
    apple sells a $1 case for $30-40
  7. Mrbobb macrumors 601

    Aug 27, 2012
    Can it be Apple moving away from 1-button to 3 buttons like, like... arrrrhhhh!
  8. Truefan31 macrumors 68040


    Aug 25, 2012
    I'm more excited that it looks like a bigger battery
  9. Commy1 macrumors 6502a


    Feb 25, 2013
    Ooh that's interesting. Every bit counts in a small device like an iPhone, I wonder.
  10. Paskell macrumors member

    Jan 30, 2013
    I agree fully with this I think they will remove the home button completely and have a bigger screen. At least I hope so I would like it to stay relatively the same width and hight as the 5 but I can see it being a tad wider if infant they make the screen bigger as Samsung did with the s3-s4
  11. cynics macrumors G4

    Jan 8, 2012
    Do we have more pics? The contacts with the current home button are offset. It's not out of the realm of possibility that with a new logic board things are just moved a bit.

    I think its quite the leap to assume fingerprint scanner in the home button based on this single pic. Which is why I'm curious if there are more.
  12. jsnuff1 thread starter macrumors 6502a

    Oct 4, 2003
    Well im assuming a fingerprint scanner but it could be anything else. What im stating is that the connector for the home button went from a simple two pin contact connector to a 10 pin socket connector, therefore the home button will have some sort of additional functionality.

    There is no way the 2 pin home button connector was moved around, as this is the only space where it can be in the current design, and from the logic board pic it has not been moved anywhere else.
  13. jsnuff1 thread starter macrumors 6502a

    Oct 4, 2003
    attached is the full image for reference. Left is the 5S right is 5.

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  14. 3rd Rock macrumors 6502

    Aug 10, 2012
    Over here
  15. aaplexcelsior macrumors newbie

    Sep 4, 2012
    This connector bit is definitely the best evidence so far that there may in fact be a fingerprint sensor in this next phone. It's not clear to me that the software/ecosystem is really ready to take full advantage of it (I would have thought that the Passbook concept would be further along), but even if all it does is avoid the need for a passcode to get into the phone, I think a lot of people would appreciate it as a new feature, and it could be part of what differentiates the "5S" from the "mid-range" phone. A few more thoughts, some of which I think I've seen others wonder about, too:

    - I've wondered whether all of the fall 2012 releases were to get the products on the same 'cycle' so that fingerprint could be rolled out simultaneously across the product lines.
    - The sensor is probably not only good for fingerprints, but acts as a little trackpad, as others have noted. And as others have said, the new iOS 7 "edge" gestures would be replicable on the home button sensor:
    swipe from top = notifications
    swipe from bottom = control panel
    swipe from left = unlock/fingerprint/back
    swipe from right = ?
    So that folks with the fingerprint sensor would have the option of either swiping their touch displays or swiping the home button for these gestures. It seems slightly redundant, but there is a bit of convenience, I suppose, in not having to reach for the top of the display (especially if they launch bigger phones eventually).
    The iOS 7 unlock screen fits well with this theory, since having an actual button with a track like in previous iOS versions wouldn't make sense if swiping the home button also unlocked the phone. The "slide to unlock" language could apply to the screen or the button.
    - I wonder how iCloud keychain fits with fingerprint. I used to think that the fingerprint would "unlock" passwords. But if this feature is available on non-fingerprint phones... (Should I feel comfortable saving all my passwords/credit cards on a phone secured only with a four digit pass code?)
    - I also thought fingerprint would provide theft reduction. But it seems like they've "solved" that with activation lock.
  16. jarden1982 macrumors newbie

    Jun 26, 2013
    Memphis, Tennessee
    I like the idea of a fingerprint scanner on the 5s. If that is what it is, that just made my buying decision that much easier.


    That, and the bigger battery, the increased 13 mp camera, ios 7.
  17. daijholt macrumors 65816


    Jun 14, 2013
    Wales, UK
    I'd love a fingerprint scanner on my iPhone, I hate using a pass code, it feels so outdated.
  18. Commy1 macrumors 6502a


    Feb 25, 2013
    I would appreciate a fingerprint scanner IF they somehow allowed phones to become like wallets.
    e.g. Going into a grocery store, you walk up and down isles, putting whatever you need in a cart, a store device itself keeping track of what you have in the cart, it then contacts your iPhone and asks you to confirm your purchase as you walk out the door.
    This technology is already out there, but taking a step further with the iPhone would be interesting. That's the only real reason I would want a fingerprint scanner, purely for security reasons. A passcode is enough for me and regular use. The iPhone will get more secure anyhow with the new iOS 7 and the Apple ID lock, a very good idea for theft reasons.
    Or perhaps using your iPhone like PayPass. But you could use it much the same way with a simple case, pop you paypass debit card into a slot, swipe phone over the scanner and go.
  19. ray6712 macrumors 6502


    Apr 15, 2012
    Looking at that pic I wholeheartedly agree that there's something definitely different with the home button there. I'm hoping the home button is capacitive though while also being clickable maybe a shallower click than what we have now. I'm thinking apple will knock this out of the park if they implement this correctly especially if they implement NFC.

    If Apple implements NFC through the iPhone and sets this up with airdrop the possibilities are really endless for them
  20. ross1998 macrumors 6502a

    Jan 10, 2013
    That's about 10-20 years later, it will after the government releases the microchips
  21. lunaoso macrumors 65816


    Sep 22, 2012
    Boston, MA
    Right and left for switching between apps (like the iPad)? I think that would be really cool.
  22. Defender2010 macrumors 68030


    Jun 6, 2010
    The home button is just about the only thing that has not majorly changed since the first iPhone so it may get an amazing new change - would it be so hard to embed the scanner in the home button and make it glass and touch sensitive? Hopefully not! Doing away with the physical click would be great.
  23. macrumors 68000

    May 25, 2012
    It would be a nice little suprise!

    I was kind of hoping that it would just be able to scan your finger print anywhere on the screen (im not a hardware guy so sorry if thats not possible).
  24. Commy1 macrumors 6502a


    Feb 25, 2013
    Walmart is using this type of shopping right now though. I've never experienced it myself as I live in a small area but it does exist. Eliminating jobs hooray...

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