New Jersey Gov't shutdown for the holiday weekend! Wha?!

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  1. JayMysterio macrumors 6502

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    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/30/nyregion/chris-christie-new-jersey-budget.html

    Sheesh! Well that's a wonderful way to start your long holiday weekend! :confused:
     
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    Democrats are to blame there But why?? No cash? Too much waste? If so then I agree with the democrats
     
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    Actually no, it's not the democrats. Christie is digging in his heels to get what he wants, which is access to the coffers of a non profit healthcare. The democrats won't give him access, but passed what he wanted otherwise. Christie claims its money for drug treatment which is important to him. Unfortunately history shows when you give Christie access to extra money ( Google Sandy Funds & Tunnel project ) he doesn't spend it where he promises.

    http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2017/06/sweeney_no_support_for_christies_idea_to_raid_hori.html

     
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    Actually, it's because Christie wants to get his hands on Horizon BCBS surplus funds to combat some noble causes, but at the expense of raising everybody's insurance premiums.

    This article explains it pretty well.
     
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    Then I support the democrats if it's that bad
     
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    I don't really understand the governments right to demand money from a company/organization on such a whim. Sure, the Horizon has benefited from NJ Medicaid expansion and can more than likely afford $300m without raising rates. But I don't really see how the state can justify demanding money like this.

    On the other hand, private insurance companies are very cheap when it comes to addiction treatment- often requiring x number of detoxes, x number of outpatient progress, before they will pay for extended inpatient treatment. For a while BCBS wasn't covering inpatient opiate detox (instead ambulatory detox) because opiate withdrawal is not life threatening. Patients usually end up paying for a lot of the trestment themselves.

    But again, I don't think it's ethical for the government to demand money from companies just for the sake of it. Unless it's a taxes or a lawsuit.

    I just read another article saying Christie demanded $300m. Horizon offered $135 and he turned it down.
     
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    Confusing God, party and country again, lol... but an admirable sentiment!
     
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    Doesn't Chris Christie still have one of the lowest approval ratings of any sitting Governor in the Union?

    I guess he either doesn't care and is already working on his post Government job (probably whoever is going to benefit from raiding the non-profit healthcare in New Jersey). Or this is his best attempt at using reverse psychology with voters.
     
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    Well if they are shut down, must mean no employees there, so just crash the gate. You can be at the beach, barbecue, play frisbee. Don't need park employees to have fun, and no fee, the collection booth closed. It's your public beach and parks, go use em. Think of it as becomeing a more free country.

    This message brought to you by Trump....making merica great again.....one state, one park, one beach at a time. Free coal shovels being handed out by Trump, 4th July only.
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    Well...he gotta sit, legs can't take all that standing weight.

    Maybe his former bud....the Trumpster can put in a good word with the Russian banks, get Christy loan.
     
  13. JayMysterio thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Well, technically yes... but at your own risk.

    The police are still working so if they catch you...

    Something goes wrong and you need emergency services, it will be reported.

    So basically, it was a jerk move to force a standoff holding your own constituents holiday as a bargaining chip to get what selfishly want. Then again Christie doesn't care he knows he's gone in 6 months, he just needs to set himself up for afterwards. I'm sure there was a way he was going to benefit from raiding those coffers later down the line.
     
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    Even Trump has more credibility than Christie.
     
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    Well it's not exactly a high bar to clear.
     
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    There was at least one state employee there this weekend

    http://www.philly.com/philly/news/p...nd-beach-state-park-nj-shutdown-20170702.html
     
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    You know what's great about shutting down your state gov't? No one to crowd you on the beach!

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat...h_to_themselves_as_new_jersey_government.html

    :eek:

    I imagine technically this would be correct since the police normally aren't used to close the beach to the rest of the public. :rolleyes:
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    https://www.vox.com/vox-sentences/2017/7/3/15917538/vox-sentences-chris-christie-beaches-shutdown
     
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    And the fallout begins...

    http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/...garding.html#incart_2box_nj-homepage-featured

    "A Hudson County attorney has filed a complaint against Gov. Chris Christie, saying he used his position unethically when he and family members basked in the warm sun at Island Beach State Park Sunday while the public was turned away because of the state shutdown.

    In accordance with the "Plain Language Guide to New Jersey's Executive Branch Ethics Standards" no person of the executive branch may obtain a "special benefit" as a result of their position ... in the executive branch," according to the complaint filed today with the State Ethics Commission by West New York attorney Mario M. Blanch.

    "The governor and his family hold no special privileges over the residents and citizens of the state of New Jersey," the complaint says. "By using the park, 'in direct contravention to the shutdown,' (Christie) utilized his position as governor ... to obtain benefits for himself and his family that members of the general public could not enjoy for themselves."

    Blanch noted that while Christie and family members were on the beach, the state shutdown ordered by Christie due to a budget impasse caused many businesses to lose money and caused inconvenience to numerous families traveling during the Fourth of July weekend.
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    https://theslot.jezebel.com/chris-christie-hit-with-ethics-complaint-for-bogarting-1796676817

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    Look at the bright side, Christy and family are one day's worth of sun closer to skin cancer than the people he kept off the beach.
     
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    CC gets no love from Trump supporters! Not even good enough for Trump!

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