New Jersey Gov't shutdown for the holiday weekend! Wha?!

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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/30/nyregion/chris-christie-new-jersey-budget.html

The New Jersey state government was forced to shut down at midnight on Friday, as the State Legislature remained locked in a standoff with Gov. Chris Christie that left them unable to agree on a budget plan.

The most immediate effect of the shutdown will be on those headed to state-run parks and beaches for the holiday weekend. Mr. Christie’s office indicated that those parks and beaches would be closed, although their municipal counterparts will remain open.

Mr. Christie declared a state of emergency and called for a special session of the Legislature for 11 a.m. Saturday. Essential government services were to continue operating.

Mr. Christie is demanding that the $34.7 billion budget negotiated by the Legislature, which is controlled by the Democrats, include a provision requiring that Horizon Blue Cross Blue Shield spend some of its reserve fund on public health initiatives — particularly his drug treatment initiative. Without that provision, Mr. Christie, a Republican, has threatened to veto any budget that lawmakers send him.

The Democrat-controlled State Senate had passed a form of the legislation Mr. Christie is demanding, but Vincent Prieto, a Democrat and the speaker of the State Assembly, said on Friday that he would “absolutely not” pass the Horizon bill.
In a news conference late Friday afternoon, Mr. Christie, who has six months left in office, tried to shift the blame to the Legislature.

“I’m upset because this will inconvenience the people of New Jersey,” he said. “That’s the only reason I’m upset. Otherwise, legacy, all that other stuff, please. There will be a long list of things pro and con on my legacy.”

The government shutdown is the first in New Jersey in more than a decade, and it came as many in the state were heading to the Jersey Shore and its many state parks to celebrate Independence Day. The state’s casinos and racetracks will remain open, however, because of a law passed after a shutdown in 2006.
Sheesh! Well that's a wonderful way to start your long holiday weekend! :confused:
 

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Democrats are to blame there But why?? No cash? Too much waste? If so then I agree with the democrats
Actually no, it's not the democrats. Christie is digging in his heels to get what he wants, which is access to the coffers of a non profit healthcare. The democrats won't give him access, but passed what he wanted otherwise. Christie claims its money for drug treatment which is important to him. Unfortunately history shows when you give Christie access to extra money ( Google Sandy Funds & Tunnel project ) he doesn't spend it where he promises.

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2017/06/sweeney_no_support_for_christies_idea_to_raid_hori.html

On Wednesday, Christie held a press conference to announce the state Department of Human Services had levied a $15.5 million fine on Horizon on Monday for "systemic" mishandling of thousands of claims over the past year and for misreporting some financial information to the state. He used the forum to renew the call for his legislation.

In response to the governor's remarks, Scott P. Serota, president and CEO of the Blue Cross Blue Shield Association, which oversees the trademark, sent a letter to Sweeney and Prieto saying Christie's bill all but advocates a "takeover" of Horizon.

Serota said it would give state insurance commissioner so much authority, it would result in Horizon being "run as an arm of DOBI and the State of New Jersey."
 

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Democrats are to blame there But why?? No cash? Too much waste? If so then I agree with the democrats
Actually, it's because Christie wants to get his hands on Horizon BCBS surplus funds to combat some noble causes, but at the expense of raising everybody's insurance premiums.

At issue now is Christie’s push for the state’s largest health insurer to dedicate “excess” surplus for health programs that would benefit the general public, not just the nonprofit company’s policyholders. Christie in February called on Horizon to establish a permanent fund that would provide drug addiction treatment to the poor and uninsured.

The Senate on Thursday voted by 21-15 in favor of a variation of that proposal. The bill would establish a process by which Horizon and the commissioner of the state Department of Banking and Insurance determine an “efficient” surplus range. If the surplus were to exceed that range, Horizon would have to submit a plan to the state to use the money to benefit policyholders and “improve the overall health status of all New Jersey residents.”

The legislation, sponsored by Sen. Joe Vitale (D., Middlesex), would expand Horizon’s obligations to include a “charitable mission,” including by serving as the state’s insurer of last resort. That means it would have to provide care to the uninsured. The bill would also restructure Horizon’s board — giving three of the 15 seats to members selected by policyholders — and require greater financial disclosure.


Horizon, which had $2.4 billion in capital reserves at the end of 2016, says the money is needed as a cushion in case it faces unexpected expenses. It says the legislation would force it to raise premiums on its 3.8 million policyholders.
This article explains it pretty well.
 

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I don't really understand the governments right to demand money from a company/organization on such a whim. Sure, the Horizon has benefited from NJ Medicaid expansion and can more than likely afford $300m without raising rates. But I don't really see how the state can justify demanding money like this.

On the other hand, private insurance companies are very cheap when it comes to addiction treatment- often requiring x number of detoxes, x number of outpatient progress, before they will pay for extended inpatient treatment. For a while BCBS wasn't covering inpatient opiate detox (instead ambulatory detox) because opiate withdrawal is not life threatening. Patients usually end up paying for a lot of the trestment themselves.

But again, I don't think it's ethical for the government to demand money from companies just for the sake of it. Unless it's a taxes or a lawsuit.

I just read another article saying Christie demanded $300m. Horizon offered $135 and he turned it down.
 
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Doesn't Chris Christie still have one of the lowest approval ratings of any sitting Governor in the Union?

I guess he either doesn't care and is already working on his post Government job (probably whoever is going to benefit from raiding the non-profit healthcare in New Jersey). Or this is his best attempt at using reverse psychology with voters.
 

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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/30/nyregion/chris-christie-new-jersey-budget.html





Sheesh! Well that's a wonderful way to start your long holiday weekend! :confused:
Well if they are shut down, must mean no employees there, so just crash the gate. You can be at the beach, barbecue, play frisbee. Don't need park employees to have fun, and no fee, the collection booth closed. It's your public beach and parks, go use em. Think of it as becomeing a more free country.

This message brought to you by Trump....making merica great again.....one state, one park, one beach at a time. Free coal shovels being handed out by Trump, 4th July only.
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Doesn't Chris Christie still have one of the lowest approval ratings of any sitting Governor in the Union?

I guess he either doesn't care and is already working on his post Government job (probably whoever is going to benefit from raiding the non-profit healthcare in New Jersey). Or this is his best attempt at using reverse psychology with voters.
Well...he gotta sit, legs can't take all that standing weight.

Maybe his former bud....the Trumpster can put in a good word with the Russian banks, get Christy loan.
 

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Well if they are shut down, must mean no employees there, so just crash the gate. You can be at the beach, barbecue, play frisbee. Don't need park employees to have fun, and no fee, the collection booth closed. It's your public beach and parks, go use em. Think of it as becomeing a more free country.

This message brought to you by Trump....making merica great again.....one state, one park, one beach at a time. Free coal shovels being handed out by Trump, 4th July only.
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Well...he gotta sit, legs can't take all that standing weight.

Maybe his former bud....the Trumpster can put in a good word with the Russian banks, get Christy loan.
Well, technically yes... but at your own risk.

The police are still working so if they catch you...

Something goes wrong and you need emergency services, it will be reported.

So basically, it was a jerk move to force a standoff holding your own constituents holiday as a bargaining chip to get what selfishly want. Then again Christie doesn't care he knows he's gone in 6 months, he just needs to set himself up for afterwards. I'm sure there was a way he was going to benefit from raiding those coffers later down the line.
 

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Well if they are shut down, must mean no employees there, so just crash the gate. You can be at the beach, barbecue, play frisbee. Don't need park employees to have fun, and no fee, the collection booth closed. It's your public beach and parks, go use em. Think of it as becomeing a more free country.

This message brought to you by Trump....making merica great again.....one state, one park, one beach at a time. Free coal shovels being handed out by Trump, 4th July only.
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Well...he gotta sit, legs can't take all that standing weight.

Maybe his former bud....the Trumpster can put in a good word with the Russian banks, get Christy loan.

There was at least one state employee there this weekend

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/nj/chris-christie-island-beach-state-park-nj-shutdown-20170702.html
 

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You know what's great about shutting down your state gov't? No one to crowd you on the beach!

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/07/02/chris_christie_and_his_family_get_beach_to_themselves_as_new_jersey_government.html

At the news conference a reporter asked Christie if he got sun today. “I didn’t,” he replied. “I didn’t get any sun today.” His spokesman later tried to valiantly explain that lie when he was told about the aerial photographs: “Yes, the governor was on the beach briefly today talking to his wife and family before heading into the office. He did not get any sun. He had a baseball hat on.”
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Christie justified the fact that his family could keep their planned vacations when so many other people had to cancel theirs, saying it was within his rights as governor. “That’s because the governor has a residence at Island Beach. Others don’t,” Christie said. “It’s just the way it goes. Run for governor and then you can have the residence.” Earlier, the governor had said there was no reason for his family to cancel the planned vacations since they would not use any of the “services” normally provided on the beach.
I imagine technically this would be correct since the police normally aren't used to close the beach to the rest of the public. :rolleyes:
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https://www.vox.com/vox-sentences/2017/7/3/15917538/vox-sentences-chris-christie-beaches-shutdown
 

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And the fallout begins...

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2017/07/ethics_complaint_filed_against_christie_regarding.html#incart_2box_nj-homepage-featured

"A Hudson County attorney has filed a complaint against Gov. Chris Christie, saying he used his position unethically when he and family members basked in the warm sun at Island Beach State Park Sunday while the public was turned away because of the state shutdown.

In accordance with the "Plain Language Guide to New Jersey's Executive Branch Ethics Standards" no person of the executive branch may obtain a "special benefit" as a result of their position ... in the executive branch," according to the complaint filed today with the State Ethics Commission by West New York attorney Mario M. Blanch.

"The governor and his family hold no special privileges over the residents and citizens of the state of New Jersey," the complaint says. "By using the park, 'in direct contravention to the shutdown,' (Christie) utilized his position as governor ... to obtain benefits for himself and his family that members of the general public could not enjoy for themselves."

Blanch noted that while Christie and family members were on the beach, the state shutdown ordered by Christie due to a budget impasse caused many businesses to lose money and caused inconvenience to numerous families traveling during the Fourth of July weekend.
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https://theslot.jezebel.com/chris-christie-hit-with-ethics-complaint-for-bogarting-1796676817

Since Christie straight-up told reporters, “Run for governor, and you can have a residence there,” in regards to his time on Island Beach State Park, it’s fair to say he used his position to get a private beach weekend.

The decision to shut down state parks and beaches was a huge inconvenience to the good people of New Jersey: a Cub Scout group had to break camp and leave Cheesequake State Park; planned fireworks displays had to be suddenly moved; and a 5k fundraiser for the Special Olympics was cancelled, which cost them an estimated $40,000 in donations.
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And the fallout begins...

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2017/07/ethics_complaint_filed_against_christie_regarding.html#incart_2box_nj-homepage-featured

"A Hudson County attorney has filed a complaint against Gov. Chris Christie, saying he used his position unethically when he and family members basked in the warm sun at Island Beach State Park Sunday while the public was turned away because of the state shutdown.

In accordance with the "Plain Language Guide to New Jersey's Executive Branch Ethics Standards" no person of the executive branch may obtain a "special benefit" as a result of their position ... in the executive branch," according to the complaint filed today with the State Ethics Commission by West New York attorney Mario M. Blanch.

"The governor and his family hold no special privileges over the residents and citizens of the state of New Jersey," the complaint says. "By using the park, 'in direct contravention to the shutdown,' (Christie) utilized his position as governor ... to obtain benefits for himself and his family that members of the general public could not enjoy for themselves."

Blanch noted that while Christie and family members were on the beach, the state shutdown ordered by Christie due to a budget impasse caused many businesses to lose money and caused inconvenience to numerous families traveling during the Fourth of July weekend.
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https://theslot.jezebel.com/chris-christie-hit-with-ethics-complaint-for-bogarting-1796676817

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Look at the bright side, Christy and family are one day's worth of sun closer to skin cancer than the people he kept off the beach.