"New Macs for 2010 are going to take Apple to the next level"-MBA/13"MBP Mega-Hybrid?

Jobsian

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With the news today that the updated MBPs look more likely to be released imminently (link) but possibly only the 15" and 17" models, this combined with the above recent quote from Steve Jobs has made me quite excited about the fate of the 13" MacBook Pros and the MacBook Air.

Maybe there was nothing substantial beyond the kind of marketing hyperbole we'd expect from a CEO, however I'm going to guess it is significant.

Of course, this may be totally wrong, but I imagine the 15" and 17" MBP updates will be along the lines of same form factor, Core-i, slight SSD bump, some form of current-gen graphics and maybe Optimus. Little else. If the 13" MBP + MBA are left out of this update, I'm guessing they’ve got big plans for them beyond the 15" and 17".

Namely a unification of the MBA + 13"MBP into a super premium-ultraportable:
1) A device lighter and thinner than the 13" MBP and around about the same size, or even a little bigger than the MBA - remember the Vaio Z is about the same weight as the current MBA so there is scope for hopefully big performance gains
2) NO Optical Drive - This would make perfect sense given the direction of things. Lighter, more room for cooling
3) Optimus or any other fully seamless graphics switching on the fly
4) Custom-made Intel processor a la MBA Or even another nudge away from Intel with a PA Semi chip (eg Cortex A9 – though I don't know how plausible this as I don't know of any A9 benchmarks).
5) USB 3.0 or Light Peak -though given timescales say the latter is unlikely but I would absolutely love if we had either one – in which case I wouldn't really mind lower capacity but higher performance SSD
6) Absolutely killer design – I say this again, imo the Macbook Air is the best designed notebook in the history of computers – it really is a stunner, and the size/performance ratio (of the Rev B+ Rev C) is the closest to perfection that I have seen – its reputation unfortunately hampered by the problems with the Rev A version.

This is a bit more out there but:
7) Novel cooling techniques/new materials – eg leading to a fanless notebook which would have an enormous battery life
8) OLED/touchscreen/any other display tech update
9) Some other Apple X-factor :)


Some of that sounds like a dedication to the MBA, apologies (to some degree it is!)

I've seen a few posters here on MR including Scottsdale at the MBA forum predicting a possibility of this very fusion as far back as last year. Though the rumors today of no imminent MBA and 13" MBP were initially disappointing, I now hope they turn out to be true :D
 

bbtrinet

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I've heard from reliable sources that this is the new redesign of the MacBook Pros:

 

BeachChair

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I'll be (pleasantly) surprised if they put out a new design already. I'm hoping they take it in the direction of the Air by slashing the optical drive.

It's alpha omega that they dont sacrifice the excellent thermal management though.
 

Jobsian

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I'll be (pleasantly) surprised if they put out a new design already. I'm hoping they take it in the direction of the Air by slashing the optical drive.
That's exactly one of the main points of the fusion that I've forgotten to include - will update the post. As some here have speculated, the MBA may well be a prototype for the direction Apple are taking for their MBPs, losing the optical drive makes perfect sense
 

auero

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I don't think they'll try to make the mbp anymore ultra portable only because it would affect the MacBook air sales.
 

Hellhammer

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You really have no idea what you are talking about...

Optimus - Windows only (hopefully ATI and Apple has developed something similar)
Custom CPUs - No need
USB3/LightPeak - It's not 2011 yet
OLED - Yes but 13" MBP will start from 2999$
New design - Doubt it

There are over 20 000 posts regarding to this already....
 

Jobsian

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I don't think they'll try to make the mbp anymore ultra portable only because it would affect the MacBook air sales.
True but the point is that they would drop what is currently called the MBA altogether
 

Relznuk

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You really have no idea what you are talking about...

Optimus - Windows only (hopefully ATI and Apple has developed something similar)
Custom CPUs - No need
USB3/LightPeak - It's not 2011 yet
OLED - Yes but 13" MBP will start from 2999$
New design - Doubt it

There are over 20 000 posts regarding to this already....
Exactly. Don't waste a perfectly good thread.
 

Danielclark

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You really have no idea what you are talking about...

Optimus - Windows only (hopefully ATI and Apple has developed something similar)
Custom CPUs - No need
USB3/LightPeak - It's not 2011 yet
OLED - Yes but 13" MBP will start from 2999$
New design - Doubt it

There are over 20 000 posts regarding to this already....
USB 3 is not 2011?
Today i saw a new Western Digital eksternal harddrive with USB3 support in a newspaper from a major danish eletronics store (much like best buy)
 

sth

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4) Custom-made Intel processor a la MBA Or even another nudge away from Intel with a PA Semi chip (eg Cortex A9 – though I don't know how plausible this as I don't know of any A9 benchmarks).
There's no need for a custom Intel processor since Intel currently has lots of nice low voltage Core i3/i5/i7 CPUs ready.

Cortex A9 would be nice for the next iPad but not the MBP. It's about the speed of a netbook CPU and doesn't run x86 software.
 

LucidPsychosis

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NO NO NO NO NO. I'm planning on getting a MBP once the refreshes release, but if they pull some stunt by fusing the 13" with the MBA, then it's a no go.

I know this is pure speculation, but still...
 

Hellhammer

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USB 3 is not 2011?
Today i saw a new Western Digital eksternal harddrive with USB3 support in a newspaper from a major danish eletronics store (much like best buy)
There are HDs and controller cards with USB3 but so far no laptops and no motherboards with integrated USB3, only external card for USB3.

2011 sounds right for consumer release (laptops with it, devices with it etc)
 

roxygal9

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I really think this could be a possibility having the air and mbp merge into one. Its a smart marketing move i think as most people who opt for a 13 in machine probably dont need superdrive etc need it for portability. I love the MBA, but I was considering the MBP 13in since its ram can be upgraded, etc. perhaps I wont have to make that decision anymore? Hopefully it is not nixed for good! :mad: