New mice: Bluetooth?

McFreggle

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Spymac claims that Apple planned to release new mice (as said before in the threads about the two buttons aso), but has delayed it for an unknown reason.

They say the special thing about it, is that it would be a Bluetooth mouse... Now this could make sense... Support for Bluetooth, and then wireless mousing...

What do you guys think?
 

MacManiac1224

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I think it i very possible. but If there were a two button bluetooth mouse, it would have to have a scroll-wheel for me to buy it.
 

AmbitiousLemon

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well if this is true then it is a long ways off. since apple doesnt make any macs that have bluetooth its pretty funny to think they would make a bluetooth mouse.

until bluetooth becomes part of the machine instead of a weird third party hack we arent going to see a bluetooth mouse/keyboard. however apple may be hard at work at incorporating bluetooth into all of its machines for each machine's next revision. only after all the pins are lined up will apple release a new mouse.
 

rainman::|:|

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Originally posted by AmbitiousLemon
only after all the pins are lined up will apple release a new mouse.
Agreed. It's not Apple's style to do something like that. I've been opposed to the idea that Apple's interested in wireless mice/keyboards, but this brings things much closer to reality. They might go as far as to announce the wireless mouse, pending bluetooth implimentation.

My question is, could it still be optic? I'd think that light uses quite a bit of battery power...

pnw
 

BeerDrinker29

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Actually

Why would Apple have to wait until bluetooth is part of computer? Think about it: it's just a USB adapter. So you would plug in your adapter (I'm assuming it would ship with the mouse) and use the mouse. It would take the same amount of USB ports as current mice, but you would be wireless. Would be cooooooool. (Maybe they could sell the kit for $99) But why not go all the way and make a wireless mouse and kb? :)
 

Mr. Anderson

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bluetooth

But the nice thing if they went blue tooth with wireless mice and kb, then there might be a hardware upgrade. Think about wireless mice and kb with a Ti! Oh the freedom, oh the jealous stares....

I'd buy it.
 

kainjow

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Can't wait

I was just thinking about a wireless mouse the other day. "Everything is easier on a mac" would make more sense now because you wouldn't have to mess with those annoying cords.

Also, why would they use Bluetooth when they have Airport? How are these different? I though Bluetooth hasn't been doing so good recently. Somebody please help me with these 2 terms...
 

Kid Red

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Originally posted by AmbitiousLemon
well if this is true then it is a long ways off. since apple doesnt make any macs that have bluetooth its pretty funny to think they would make a bluetooth mouse.

until bluetooth becomes part of the machine instead of a weird third party hack we arent going to see a bluetooth mouse/keyboard. however apple may be hard at work at incorporating bluetooth into all of its machines for each machine's next revision. only after all the pins are lined up will apple release a new mouse.
Yea, long ways off. We will have to wait for 10.2 which will have bluettooth support and Apple with ship a $49 converter. Long ways off :rolleyes:

Did you even read any of the show info before commenting?
 

lordsinforge

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Re: Can't wait

Also, why would they use Bluetooth when they have Airport? How are these different? I though Bluetooth hasn't been doing so good recently. Somebody please help me with these 2 terms... [/B][/QUOTE]

Airport is a medium distance wireless system, while bluetooth is a short distance system.
 

Mr. Anderson

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Re: Can't wait

Originally posted by kainjow
Also, why would they use Bluetooth when they have Airport?
Airport is Apple's wireless networking system, with a data rate about 11Mbps and a range of ~50m

Bluetooth is a wireless data transfer system, think of it as wireless USB, with a data rate about 1Mbps and a range of ~10m.

Bluetooth is currently in the works for Palm and you'll probably see it in almost every eDevice imaginable from printers, scanners, digital cameras, etc.
 

sprescott1974

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clie

What is interesting is that someone said that Steve synched a Sony Clie through bluetooth. Does this mean we are finally going to see: 1. OSX PDA compatibility (Iknow palm desktop for OSX is inthe works but I haven't heard anythign good about it yet) and 2. Clie OSX compatibility (since up until now syncing a MAC with a Sony PDA has required a hack)?

Who needs an Apple branded PDA when you can use a Sony Clie as your organizer? Don't say Handspring either because Clie is a far superior piece of hardware.
 

Pelorus

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Re: bluetooth

Originally posted by dukestreet
But the nice thing if they went blue tooth with wireless mice and kb, then there might be a hardware upgrade. Think about wireless mice and kb with a Ti! Oh the freedom, oh the jealous stares....
On the other hand:

1. Wireless RF meeces and keyboards already exist
2. Bluetooth is relatively power hungry compared to these RF devices
3. Neither RF nor Bluetooth are in any way secure.
4. Bluetooth broadcasts before checking the signal unlike 802.11b.

Bluetooth is a nice step but ... bleh
 

Pelorus

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Re: Re: Re: bluetooth

Originally posted by sprescott1974


you were being funny when you said meeces right?
No, in the UK it's the plural of mouse (the electronic kind).

Honest.
 

nathany

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Wireless optical mice

Wireless optical mice exist - but the Logitech one uses a special power conservative sensor - and the mouse costs more. But it is certainly in the realm of possible.

How much more power does Bluetooth use than RF?

- n8
 

Timothy

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trackball...

Personally...I'm a trackball kind of guy, so I don't get too excited about the possibility of a wireless mouse.

Additionally, as I understand it, you need to have battery power in the mouse when it is wireless, no? This provides a level of maintenance that I just don't want to have to deal with when it comes to a mouse. A mouse should be set it and forget it. If I've got to start worrying whether or not my mouse is charged it would drive me crazy.

And, speaking of charging a mouse...how would this work? Would you need a cable? Hence nullifying the entire idea of a wireless mouse?

I see this as one of those areas where people speculate about it, and thus get excited by the idea...but in reality, it provides little to no real benefit to the user, and in actuality might complicate the user-experience.

Do we really need this? Can someone convince me of the utility (other than aesthetic) of this future device?
 

Beej

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It makes sense to me that if Apple is planning to release a wireless mouse (and/or keyboard) they would wait until 10.2 was released.

They don't want people getting upset with their hardware because their beta software has bugs in it...
 

rekras

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I dont know if im the only one but i dont really want a wireless mouse, sure it's convient with no wire but ive heard many stories of how the cursor takes up to 2 seconds to respond to mouse movement. Also I woulnt want to be constantly buying batteries for the thing to run.

On the topic of an apple two button mouse, i really doubt it will happen. It's become a symbol of apple to only have one button, and it would be descerning for them to take that away. It's like if they made an imac that wasnt all in one. I think, especially with apple stubborness, that apple will innovate a telopathic mouse before they give in and make make a two button one.

-besides who trusts spymac anymore?
 

nathany

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wireless mice

Wireless mice and keyboards use batteries. You have to replace the battery about every 6 months or so, and you receive an early warning in software. It would be a pain if you ignore the warning and don't have any batteries - and it is a bit of maintenance vs. wired mice.

I agree, that new mice would likely come with 10.2 and new systems. Would have to have wireless keyboards too, or it wouldn't make that much sense. Hopefully it would be BTO for those that don't want it.

On the plus side, Bluetooth doesn't add too much to the price, so it would seem resonable to build it into all Macs whether they come with wireless mice or not. Nifty.

- n8
 

Rank Xerox

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Maybe Apple is working on a wireless two button mouse, or maybe not. Personally don't I think there will be a two button mouse from Apple in a long long while. But that's not my point here.

But one thing is sure. Spymac has no inside information, and they will never have. Spymac has never been right about their so-called inside knowledge, EVER.

You guys that goes to Spymac must really be desperat for mac-rumors. Just leave them allone and let Spymac vanish in the cyberspace.
 

me hate windows

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I hate wireless mice because they have to have batteries in them, and also, sometimes you can lose them becuase they want to run off and explore.:D
 

BeerDrinker29

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Originally posted by Choppaface
110 for a mouse is *way* too much
Perhaps, but I paid about 100$ for the MS intellimouse explorer when it came out. No regrets.. and it's not even wireless.
 

Timothy

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3rd party perk...

Besides...I've always just considered the mouse as Apple's nod to third-party developers.

Sort of like most car stereos. The manufacturer provides the bare-minimum, and thus provides access to an entire industry to provide something better.

I haven't used an Apple mouse as my full-time mouse for more than 8 years now. I've been extremely happy with my Kensington Turbo Mouse trackballs, and always feel awkward when I go back to having to scoot a mouse around the desk.
 

dualburn001

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Originally posted by Rank Xerox
Maybe Apple is working on a wireless two button mouse, or maybe not. Personally don't I think there will be a two button mouse from Apple in a long long while. But that's not my point here.

But one thing is sure. Spymac has no inside information, and they will never have. Spymac has never been right about their so-called inside knowledge, EVER.

You guys that goes to Spymac must really be desperat for mac-rumors. Just leave them allone and let Spymac vanish in the cyberspace.
actually Spymac had some pretty accurate predictions for the Tokyo Expo. you gotta trust them every once in a while:p