New Poll Reveals Many Americans Express Doubt Over Global Warming, Evolution, Big Ban


Michael Goff

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Can we get a political breakdown of these survey participants. I think we all know what the findings would be.
That is a good question, and I'm trying my best to find any information. If somebody finds it before I do, please share.
 

ElectronGuru

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Here's something. Seems that many Republicans stopped believing in evolution after President Obama was elected. This tells you that the angrier they are, the more they deny science.
Interesting wording on that graph: "existed in present form since the beginning"

If we are as we've always been, then we havn't changed
If we havn't changed, then we aren't changing
If we aren't changing, then we wont change
 

rdowns

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I'll repeat myself. Ignorance, and the celebration of it, are killing the US.
 

decafjava

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*Sigh* You know, besides atheists this probably isn't even an issue for Buddhists, Hindus or even many Christians (read some of the Church Fathers who wrote what is already in the bible - namely one day to God is like a 1000 years - YEC would have seemed daft).
 

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*Sigh* You know, besides atheists this probably isn't even an issue for Buddhists, Hindus or even many Christians (read some of the Church Fathers who wrote what is already in the bible - namely one day to God is like a 1000 years - YEC would have seemed daft).
I guess punctuality wasn't god's strong suit.
 

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*Sigh* You know, besides atheists this probably isn't even an issue for Buddhists, Hindus or even many Christians (read some of the Church Fathers who wrote what is already in the bible - namely one day to God is like a 1000 years - YEC would have seemed daft).
So, God created the world, completely from scratch, in six days 6,000 years, you're saying?
 

Chundles

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I don't get the need to inject supernatural elements into things. So far everything we've attributed to the supernatural in the past has proven to be anything but.

We have a whole stack of really good evidence for the Big Bang and zero for anything else. Why do people continue to cling to faith when they're wrong?

What's more important? Having faith or knowing the truth?

I vote truth, every time.
 

Huntn

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I'll repeat myself. Ignorance, and the celebration of it, are killing the US.
I believe as a society Americans are devolving.

I don't get the need to inject supernatural elements into things. So far everything we've attributed to the supernatural in the past has proven to be anything but.

We have a whole stack of really good evidence for the Big Bang and zero for anything else. Why do people continue to cling to faith when they're wrong?

What's more important? Having faith or knowing the truth?

I vote truth, every time.
"YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!" ;)
 

iBlazed

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I believe as a society Americans are devolving.
I wouldn't go that far. If you compare these numbers to the 1980's, for example, you would probably think we've rapidly evolved since then. Funny part is these people who deny evolution and climate change because it might have a negative effect on their lives are the same crowd who believe the "end days" are here. Pretty ironic for such skeptical people.
 

Huntn

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I wouldn't go that far. If you compare these numbers to the 1980's, for example, you would probably think we've rapidly evolved since then. Funny part is these people who deny evolution and climate change because it might have a negative effect on their lives are the same crowd who believe the "end days" are here. Pretty ironic for such skeptical people.
Ok, some segment of society is devolving, the ones who don't want to take responsibility for their actions and are more comfortable with their faith than scientific evidence. :)
 

iBlazed

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Ok, some segment of society is devolving, the ones who don't want to take responsibility for their actions and are more comfortable with their faith than scientific evidence. :)
So...Republicans? Yes, they've gotten worse since the evangelical movement hijacked their party in the 80's.
 

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Here's something. Seems that many Republicans stopped believing in evolution after President Obama was elected. This tells you that the angrier they are, the more they deny science.
That's kind of a stretch that it has to do with Obama being elected. You could choose any event in that time period and attribute it to that.
 

iBlazed

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That's kind of a stretch that it has to do with Obama being elected. You could choose any event in that time period and attribute it to that.
Perhaps there's no correlation, and I have no evidence to show there is, but it's a HUGE coincidence. As someone in another thread said, maybe there's no proven causation but it's a lot of correlation.
 

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Perhaps there's no correlation, and I have no evidence to show there is, but it's a HUGE coincidence. As someone in another thread said, maybe there's no proven causation but it's a lot of correlation.
But you can correlate any number of things to the change... "Obama is president so I'm gonna stop believing in evolution" seems far fetched. Your assertion has no basis.

Edit: According to this article it sounds like the change is more because the Republican party has brought back more people that don't believe in evolution. Obama becoming president didn't discredit evolution. A democrat becoming president may have brought lazy republicans back into the party, thereby increasing the number of people in the party and thus increasing the amount that don't believe in evolution.
 
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iBlazed

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But you can correlate any number of things to the change... "Obama is president so I'm gonna stop believing in evolution" seems far fetched. Your assertion has no basis.
I don't know the logic behind their thinking. But it's really a huge drop in such a short span of time for one political party, it's hard not to link it to their feelings of a loss and national abandonment of their values. At least that's my view on it, but again, maybe I'm wrong. On the other hand, has anything really happened in the past few years that reaffirmed traditional biblical beliefs on a national scale? I can't recall anything.

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Edit: According to this article it sounds like the change is more because the Republican party has brought back more people that don't believe in evolution. Obama becoming president didn't discredit evolution. A democrat becoming president may have brought lazy republicans back into the party, thereby increasing the number of people in the party and thus increasing the amount that don't believe in evolution.
Ahh that makes sense. I have no problem being wrong.