New PowerMac 1.8GHz Released


cxny

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So why is that horrid picture of Bono still on Apple's homepage?

Edit: Wow, I guess they read this column he's outta there already!
 

SilentPanda

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*raises hand*

Can I be the first to complain?

Why would you get this over the iMac G5 that's the same price? You get a 17" screen... I guess there's the whole expandability issue but...

I guess you can put more RAM in the tower, better vid card, more HD space, and a few other quirks but... even the FSB is at the iMac G5 level.
 

brap

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Ah man, no new form factor. It's too... big, we all know the G5 1.8 can be cooled adequately in the smallest of environments, and not everyone wants a monster G5 tower, or a cutesy TFT iMac. This doesn't fill the niche at all.

Crappy FSB, too.
 

Dont Hurt Me

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Apple needs a low end powermac that can be configured for the customer, this is a much better machine then a imac in my view and could be considered a gamers mac. Add the videocard of your choice and you are in.FX5200 not included. I have allways wished that apple would sell its fastest single cpu in a powermac. On another note i dont think if sales were rocketing they would have brought back the single G5 machine. Must have some tower cases to get rid of why else bring back the single cpu machine? good for the consumer but so odd the games apple plays with configurations. I have allways felt when it comes to Macs its about what apple wants not what the consumer wants.
 

aswitcher

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Macrumors said:
PowerMac 1.8GHz (Single Processor)
256MB RAM
80GB HD
GeForce FX 5200
SuperDrive
$1499
$2699, $900 AUD less here for the machine when compared to the dual.

Sorry, its still pretty exy when whole Dell packages are going for less than that...and the iMac...
 

ijimk

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I still feel this is a bit over priced with the imac g5 just released. I think it should be about $999. then you would attract more sales to it and see it as another option to the lower priced macs. I think they would sell alot of g5s at this price. My vote $999.
 

ntg

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aswitcher said:
$2699, $900 AUD less here for the machine when compared to the dual.

Sorry, its still pretty exy when whole Dell packages are going for less than that...and the iMac...

£1099 GBP - so we lose out in the UK yet again!!

(still, it's nice to see a headless G5 for aroung a grand!)

Nig.
 

Zaty

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aswitcher said:
$2699, $900 AUD less here for the machine when compared to the dual.

Sorry, its still pretty exy when whole Dell packages are going for less than that...and the iMac...
$200-300 US less would have resulted in a great value. But $1499 is too expensive for what you get IMO.

Another thought, apparently, there seems to be no shortage on 1.8 GHz cpus anymore, which is a good sign.
 

~Shard~

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Wow, good call MacRumors! You guys nailed that rumor...

I think this is an excellent move on Apple's part, this lower-end model (if you can even call a G5 PowerMac "low-end"!) really fills a market niche and will be a very attractive machine for many people, especially those who don't need dual processors in their days to day tasks. This definitely puts it at interesting price point compared to the iMacs too! (I'm sure that will spark a whole debate here as well!)
 

homerjward

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SilentPanda said:
*raises hand*

Can I be the first to complain?

Why would you get this over the iMac G5 that's the same price? You get a 17" screen... I guess there's the whole expandability issue but...

I guess you can put more RAM in the tower, better vid card, more HD space, and a few other quirks but... even the FSB is at the iMac G5 level.
yeah, and pci slots, audio in, optical audio out (that's not on the imac right?) fw 800, gigabit ethernet, front ports...i'd still buy the imac for my $1500
 

Lancetx

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If you order it with the combo drive and can get the education discount, that knocks it down to $1,259. That's not too bad at all for an expandable G5 system.
 

caveman_uk

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I suppose this is Apple's answer to those who moaned about the video card in the imac. You want a more powerful card then pay for it...

I do think it sucks that they've crippled the FSB on this. Why? Would it otherwise compete to closely with the dual on performance?

I guess this is a reasonable machine for those that

a) have a TFT already. (Like me)
b) Would like more upgradability
c) Are strapped for cash
d) Don't actually need a dual tower.

I can't see then selling an awful lot of these though. I reckon the ibook speed bump was a better move.
 

zelmo

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Well, at least they released a lower priced PowerMac to fill the product gap. I don't think they spec's are all that, though. :confused:
Why would you buy the single 1.8 with 600MHz bus when you can double up the processors and add a sdcreaming 900MHz bus for $500 more?
At the $1499 price, you might as well get an iMac. The only selling point is the upgradeability of the GPU. woo-hoo!

Seems like it would have been better to keep a 900MHz bus and drop the price to $1199 or so.

At least it's nice to have something concrete to complain about :rolleyes:
 

~Shard~

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For what its worth, I'd buy the iMac as well, since you get the display included, but for those with an existing display, or who need the expandability, more RAM, more HD, etc. I still think this is an attractive option.
 

Rod Rod

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$1349 edu price

This fills a void left when the PM G4 1.25 single left... of course that was $1199 edu price...

But if you're lucky you can snag a 900MHz FSB, 8GB max. RAM, 1.8GHz PM G5 single-processor from Apple's Special Deals section, for $1499. That's a much better value than this.

33MHz PCI goes how far back ... maybe to the Digital Audio of 3 years ago, or what, the Blue and White G3 tower, or even earlier than that? Okay I know it's fine for a lot of purposes, except for super high speed I/O.

I'm happy they didn't downgrade the wireless networking to Airport 802.11b, and I'm also glad the ethernet is still gigabit and not 10/100. It's also wonderful they didn't slap a sticker or emblem on the front saying "Power Mac G5 Light" (or if you prefer, "Lite" in marketing speak).

All in all this rocks. Maybe I'll order mine with an nVidia 6800 just to get a lot of you to scratch your heads (or at least use that emoticon).

edit: Lancetx's example with the combo drive at $1259 is a better comparison to the PM G4 for $1199.
 

aethier

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hmm, i like it, i used to want to update my powerbook with the dualcore g4 when it comes out, but that would come to 4319.40 with tax, educ discount (CAD) whereas i could keep the powerbook i have now, and get the powermac as a gaming mac (i know the pc is an option, but i hate windows) 1 gig of ram, and radeon 9800xt, for 3280.95 with tax, educ discount,... (and plus about 150 for a nice crt monitor)

apple... you sure make life difficult with all these nice choices

aethier
 

wwooden

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it's not that bad

For people like me who already have an external display to use, this is a good computer to consider. I like the new iMac, but it doesn't have the expandibility that i want. Also, since I am a student, I can get it even cheaper, $1349. If I change it to a combo drive, then it is around $1260, now that's not a bad deal at all for a G5 tower.
 

caveman_uk

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ntg said:
£1099 GBP - so we lose out in the UK yet again!!
They're using the same 'Apple exchange rate' they use on all the other powermacs. I figured the price out from the US price earlier. I guess Apple realises we may go to the US and buy a laptop. We probably aren't gonna buy a powermac in the US so we get screwed on those. The UK price for the laptops makes it barely worth buying abroad.
 

Dont Hurt Me

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Lancetx said:
If you order it with the combo drive and can get the education discount, that knocks it down to $1,259. That's not too bad at all for an expandable G5 system.
I agree, at that price point Apple is back in the game for a lot of people wanting growth and expansion in a computer but dont have 2 grand to spend. $1259 gets you a very nice machine. I wonder how those that bought the single 1.8 a year ago feel about it?
 

aswitcher

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Whilst the single proc PM might fill a niche, its going to be hard to convince would be switchers that this is there entry level machine, because when you add on more ram, a better graphics card, larger HDD etc, its getting pretty pricey compared to the PC world...
 

Wonder Boy

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Feb 18, 2003
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there's your headless mac. its just like apple to give people things they didn't know they needed (ipod) and things the dont want (an expensive headless mac). seems there is no pleasing us unless it's a totaly new product.

kinda sad, in a way.