NippleGate Feb 1, 2004

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by Huntn, Feb 3, 2011.

  1. Huntn macrumors P6


    May 5, 2008
    The Misty Mountains
    Do you remember the horror? One second of prime time Janet Jackson's breast during prime time Superbowl and little Billy and Suzie were scarred for life. 500,000 complaints lodged with the FCC against CBS. A $500k fine levied against CBS which is still in the courts. And the debate raged as to just what indecency is.

    It's hard to believe how hung up the U.S. is regarding nudity. Have we improved (liberalized) since then or have become even more conservative? Certain elements of the country have certainly moved towards the dark, the dark ages that is.

    Nipplegate was an accident. However, what I find amazing is the schism between public broadcast tv and cable. It's easy to find softcore porn on cable TV. I wonder why they keep public TV is such a straight jacket? It's hard to compete that way although there are signs now and then of somewhat liberalized views, showing a tush here and there, but my god never a nipple! ;) I can verify there is a demand for nudity. I demand it. ;) I guess the debate is, is this liberating or is it sinking into the moral abyss? Personally I like a healthy dose of nudity and sexual situations intertwined in my entertainment. Technology exists that can prevent children from seeing what parents deem as inappropriate material. So I think it's time to take public TV's straight jacket off.
  2. mcrain macrumors 68000


    Feb 8, 2002
    Ahhh, you said 'jacket off.' :D

    I think the courts ruled that situations like this did not rise to the level of a finable offense.
  3. MacNut macrumors Core


    Jan 4, 2002
    She was wearing a pasty was she not. I never saw anything that was offensive, well besides the horrible music but that is another story.

    We are at a point where over the air is such a small percentage now, just about everyone pays for over the air content through cable or satellite so the law in itself really is outdated.

    Cable channels have really loosened up the past few years. You can watch Comedy Central at night now and hear everything uncensored. While we are not to the full frontal stage yet the cable side is starting to let their guard down.
  4. OutThere macrumors 603


    Dec 19, 2002
    Reminds me of a line from Eurotrip:

    There's a subtle truth to that.
  5. rdowns macrumors Penryn


    Jul 11, 2003
  6. NickZac macrumors 68000


    Dec 11, 2010
    America has a very distinct set of taboos and fears regarding sexuality. At the same time, we sensationalize sex to a ridiculous level and sex sells. How the hell does that make sense? It really doesn't. Our fear of sexuality can also be seen in our refusal to acknowledge that any sexuality other than the 'traditional' heterosexual type exists and that our teenage pregnancy (and all accidental pregnancy) rates are stupidly high.

    We fear sex

    We want sex

    We love sex

    We hate sex

    What the ****?:confused:
  7. Andeavor macrumors 6502

    Aug 19, 2010
    What OutThere and NickZac said.

    There's a saying in German: "Was der Bauer nicht kennt, frisst er nicht." (What the farmer doesn't know, he won't eat.)

    This pretty much applies to rural and conservative America, which is still holding on to purist ideals from colonial times, which was very prude and against public indecency (hence they got kicked out of Europe). TV networks need to conform to the public to keep their ratings up and since the majority lives in that rural and midwestern environment, you can expect that anyone there seeing nudity on television will stop watching a network because they deem it indecent.

    Unfortunately, you can't force people to change their views overnight since this kind of behavior has been engrained in society and everyone growing up within and it takes a few generations to be "overcome" it.
  8. skunk macrumors G4


    Jun 29, 2002
    Republic of Ukistan
    What a very unpleasant image that phrase brings up...
  9. dscuber9000 macrumors 6502a

    Sep 16, 2007
    Indiana, US
    Yeah, I don't get the outrage at all. I mean, who are these people that seriously care?
  10. Sydde macrumors 68020


    Aug 17, 2009
    Donner Pass?
  11. NickZac macrumors 68000


    Dec 11, 2010
    That is just plain awesome and I wish I was better at my German as I pronounce it rather poorly still. But that saying applies to so many things today. Thank you!
  12. OutThere macrumors 603


    Dec 19, 2002
    Breaking news: women across the country are exposing their breasts to children as young as ten minutes old. Is your child at risk? The story, at 11:00.
  13. arkitect macrumors 603


    Sep 5, 2005
    Bath, United Kingdom
    Hard to believe it was 7 years ago.
    Most MacRumors members were probably still in nappies or at the nipple…
  14. Andeavor macrumors 6502

    Aug 19, 2010
  15. Lord Blackadder macrumors G5

    Lord Blackadder

    May 7, 2004
    Sod off
    The thing about the prudeness in thew US is that it's enormously false. It's amazing that we can be so perverse and yet still shock ourselves with it.
  16. Sydde macrumors 68020


    Aug 17, 2009
    The main reason for prudishness is that if sex is dirty, nasty, forbidden stuff, that just makes it that much more fun. Nakedness gets boring rather quickly.
  17. likemyorbs macrumors 68000


    Jul 20, 2008
    Ebonyyy and ivoryyy, live together in perfect harmonnnny. I'm sure Justin totally enjoyed seeing her nipple. And so did most people watching, suck it up America
  18. Tomorrow macrumors 604


    Mar 2, 2008
    Always a day away
    It was a nipple shield, not a pasty. BIG difference. :eek:

    I think the issue was that it occurred during the Super Bowl, in prime time (as opposed to late night), on a program not designated as "adult" or "TV-14" or whatever, so kids were watching.

    Still, cable networks are allowed to show Saving Private Ryan completely unedited. While it's a fantastic movie and I whole-heartedly applaud it being shown uncut, I'd 1000x rather my young son see a naked boobie than that much violence on TV.
  19. NickZac macrumors 68000


    Dec 11, 2010
    THAT is outright depressing. It seems like it was just last year. I hate it when I realize that old events/ideas are as old as they actually are.

    The other day I called the show Southpark a newer television show and someone who was younger than me told me that it started in 1997...which it did because I watched it in 1997.
  20. MacVixen macrumors 6502

    Jan 26, 2009
    Santa Cruz, CA
    Justin Timbrelake left Janet twisting in the wind from that whole debacle. I don't think Janet Jackson's career ever recovered from Nipplegate. She became instant poison.
  21. leekohler macrumors G5


    Dec 22, 2004
    Chicago, Illinois
    She should not have become instant poison. That's the fault of our ridiculous culture- or lack thereof.
  22. Heilage macrumors 68030


    May 1, 2009
    I never understood that. You seem to be fine with, even promoting, violence and blood. Yet a breast freaks you out.
  23. Melrose Suspended


    Dec 12, 2007
    This. The main inflatulation of the whole deal was that so many "family" people saw it. It became an issue simply out of the number of people watching at what time of day. Then, people got offended because it was the thing to do. To quote Aunt Z from Waiting For the Light, "People just want to be there." People that read/watch/listen to worse things in their personal time and think nothing of it. People are (fairly) tolerant. The public as a whole is quite fickle.
  24. Thomas Veil, Feb 3, 2011
    Last edited: Feb 3, 2011

    Thomas Veil macrumors 68020

    Thomas Veil

    Feb 14, 2004
    OBJECTIVE reality
    I like breasts. Breasts are our friends.

    There are other kinds of obscenities -- boobs that receive a lot more exposure.

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