http://www.msnbc.com/news/758851.asp?0si=- The article at MSNBC (sorry) is entitled "Next- Generation Chip Meets Mark". The chip they refer to is the Itanium 2, a true 64 bit chip to be introduced soon for highend servers and supercomputers. It runs at 1 ghz, which they say is twice as fast as the original Itanium, and has 3 mb of Level 3 cache. (Sounds a lot like the specs of a hoped-for G5.) My point is this: there is no mention of this chip being for anything like a consumer or pro model computer, and it sounds very expensive. If this were true and Intel has no near term plans to intoduce 64 bit computing to Dell-type products, then doesn't it follow that Apple would feel no pressure or need to introduce a 64 bit G5?? We really could be looking at variations of the G4 for some time; maybe no G5 even in 2003. Also, the type of software that most benefits from 64 bit processing may not be what Mac users need. What do you think are the chances we may not see true G5 til maybe 2004?