I wonder why Apple has ended it's partnership with Allume and not included Stuffit Expander with 10.4?
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stuckwithme247 said:
That stinks. I guess they figure you can just archive what you need to, but that will stink for downloading programs.
I don't think Apple liked the direction that Allume went with the updates...iGary said:
Apple likes things straightforward, but when you click on the Free Stuffit Expander link -- you get slammed with confusion and ads to buy Stuffit Standard/Deluxe.
Heck you have to download a trial of a pay program to get a shareware program.
Either that or Allume asked for more money if they were charging Apple for their program, quite a few companies have tried to gouge Apple when their contract renewal comes up to have Apple dump them -- even if there was no alternative at the moment.
Plus, as far as unarchivers go, Stuffit Expander is pretty lame for everything except .sit/.sitx and the old .bin and .hqx files. There's other free- and shareware products which are as good or better. And really, how much stuff is even packaged in those formats anymore? .zip is more compact, and as of 10.3 (well, ignoring MacZip which was ca. System 7.5.5) resource fork compatible via BOMArchiveHelper. Most stuff these days is packaged as .dmg, .zip, and .dmg.tar.gz. Oddly though, stuff from Apple is still usually packaged in .bin. Go figure.
Maybe stuffit doesn't work at the moment with 10.4.. and apple didn't want to include a dud product.
SpaceMagic said:
No it definitely works, i updated to 10.4 from 10.3 and stuffit still works fine. I really wish apple would/could just build .sit/.sitx support into the finder though!
If Apple build in .sit support, it'll only encourage people to use it. StuffIt is slow! Let's avoid that if we can 
Nermal said:If Apple build in .sit support, it'll only encourage people to use it. StuffIt is slow! Let's avoid that if we can
And after that whole automatic version checking fiasco that had a ton of users thinking there was something wrong with their computer because stuffit wouldn't launch, or would take five minutes to decompress something, good riddance!
I'm glad to hear Stuffit still works fine in 10.4, even if it's not included.
I'm going to buck the trend a little and say I'm actually quite a fan of the software itself (although some of Allume's 'marketing' techniques regarding full version kinda suck). I've not found an archive app which is so fully configurable. I use Stuffit Deluxe on both my PC and Mac. It's nice to have consistent behaviour between platforms. I like that a double-click will just expand straight away. It has the good sense to create an enclosing folder if the archive contains >1 files which aren't in a subfolder.
IMHO, it beats WinZip hands-down. Co-workers are always asking me what I'm using instead of WinZip, and are usually quite impressed by Stuffit (although as we know, it takes more than that to get most PC users to switch from an entrenched app). Stuffit handles more formats natively, and will preserve resource fork data between platforms.
I'm going to buck the trend a little and say I'm actually quite a fan of the software itself (although some of Allume's 'marketing' techniques regarding full version kinda suck). I've not found an archive app which is so fully configurable. I use Stuffit Deluxe on both my PC and Mac. It's nice to have consistent behaviour between platforms. I like that a double-click will just expand straight away. It has the good sense to create an enclosing folder if the archive contains >1 files which aren't in a subfolder.
IMHO, it beats WinZip hands-down. Co-workers are always asking me what I'm using instead of WinZip, and are usually quite impressed by Stuffit (although as we know, it takes more than that to get most PC users to switch from an entrenched app). Stuffit handles more formats natively, and will preserve resource fork data between platforms.
displaced said:
Have you ever tried WinRAR? Beats them both hands-down. In fact, I'd love something for the Mac that sucked as little as WinRAR.
Have you tried Black Diamond's software's Gzip, UU and HQX tools?
http://www.blackdiamond.co.za/bdfreex.html
http://www.blackdiamond.co.za/bdfreex.html
Neither Stuffit Standard nor Deluxe are working for me on 10.4. They start to open and then just close.
edit: after searching out and deleting all stuffit related files and then reinstalling, it appears to be working.
edit: after searching out and deleting all stuffit related files and then reinstalling, it appears to be working.
