non-U.S. citizens only. Who will win?

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by OzExige, Apr 29, 2008.

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Your best guess on the US elections

Poll closed May 29, 2008.
  1. Clinton

    10 vote(s)
    18.5%
  2. Obama

    28 vote(s)
    51.9%
  3. McCain

    14 vote(s)
    25.9%
  4. someone else

    2 vote(s)
    3.7%
  1. OzExige macrumors 6502

    OzExige

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    After watching as much of the CNN, NBC, Fox, BBC, Sky and Australian free-to-air coverage of the U.S. elections as I can stand, I've decided on Clinton for the following reasons;
    1). Obama has too much baggage with Wright
    2). McCain is a Republican
    3). Clinton has not made any large boo-boos, yet
     
  2. MacDawg macrumors P6

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    In name only

    Woof, Woof - Dawg [​IMG]
     
  3. OzExige thread starter macrumors 6502

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    :confused: I don't get it?
     
  4. bigandy macrumors G3

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  5. MacDawg macrumors P6

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    Many feel he is as liberal or more so than Obama or Clinton and that he is more Democrat than Republican. He does not have the support of the conservatives in the Republican Party.

    Woof, Woof - Dawg [​IMG]
     
  6. northernmunky macrumors 6502a

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    This is the only guy that could restore my faith in US as a nation. He caught my attention a long time ago and I'm very impressed with him, standing up for everything thats right. I've found myself reading up on him and watching his youtube even though I don't actually care about elections not happening in my own country!

    This is why: http://youtube.com/gravel2008

    The current 'front runners' as they're called over there are just the usual splurb we've all heard before.
     
  7. Abstract macrumors Penryn

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    Obama bin Laden? Now why the dickens would any real American ever vote for him? Sure, he sounds good, and he makes a lot of sense, but that's just sweet-talk. He'll likely have his friends from The Iraq, or Iran, or wherever he's from, all into the US and ruin the country.


    PEROT FOR LIFE!
     
  8. richard.mac macrumors 603

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    so its out of McCain (Republican) and Hillary OR Obama (Democrats) right? i want Obama to be the first black President as i think America is ready for it and other countries including mine will benefit from this.

    but i think McCain will win for some reason.
     
  9. Luis macrumors 65816

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    So the poll is on our best guess on who will win and not our opinion right?
     
  10. OzExige thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Correct umundo, dude

    geez, maybe just a little bit sarcastic? :rolleyes:
     
  11. zioxide macrumors 603

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    wow :eek: If that's not sarcasm, then :eek:

    This thread belongs in the political subforum too.
     
  12. Surely Guest

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    Agreed.

    If Obama wins the nomination, then there will be at least 4 more years of a Republican in the White House. He has no chance against McCain.
     
  13. gadgetgirl85 macrumors 68040

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    I am in agreement of this as well. If Clinton wins, then she will win the presidency
     
  14. MacNut macrumors Core

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    Thats funny, I thought Clinton was the one that can't beat Mccain.
     
  15. Dagless macrumors Core

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    Going off what I see on the BBC it seems like Obama has the upper hand.
     
  16. Queso macrumors G4

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    I've voted for Obama, but to be honest I think McCain will get it after some shenanigans.
     
  17. takao macrumors 68040

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    i also rather thought that if Obama get's the nomination he is going to win .. because Hillary sure won't win against McCain
     
  18. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    ++, though if McCain wins you're ruining yourselves more by the day.
     
  19. jb60606 macrumors 6502a

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    no offense, but that's *********. Urban myth at best.
     
  20. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    It sounds like something you might hear on Fox News.
     
  21. Agathon macrumors 6502a

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    I think McCain will win the same way Bush won in 2004. The right wing media will smear the democratic candidate and the rest of the media will report the smear in order to act "impartially". Since there isn't really a left wing media, the smear will win through sheer weight of coverage.

    If Hillary wins the nomination, it's pretty obvious what the smears will be (lesbian feminazi, etc.). But I doubt it will be necessary, since her actions will have put a lot of black people off voting for her.

    If Obama wins the nomination, he will be smeared as a scary black radical. It will be implied that he's a racist (which is the racists' way of legitimizing their racism against him). It's already started, so expect the rest of the year to be taken up with this garbage.

    Enjoy your four more years of Republican malfeasance. The Democrats can't win in the current environment, so they might as well give up and go home.
     
  22. glocke12 macrumors 6502a

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    Hardly. Look at his past voting record and his past stance on social policies and gun rights issues. He is a pretty liberal guy.
     
  23. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    What's his current stance?
     
  24. miloblithe macrumors 68020

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    According to actual liberal groups, McCain is the 5th most conservative member of the Senate:

    http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Senate/lib_senator_ratings-2007.html

    getting a 9% rating on average from the following groups:

    ACLU - American Civil Liberties Union
    ADA - Americans for Democratic Action
    CDF - Children's Defense Fund
    LCV - League of Conservation Voters
    NAACP - National Association for the Advancement of Colored People
    NARAL - National Abortion and Reproductive Rights Action League
    SEIU - Service Employees International Union

    on the other hand, he gets a 73% rating from the following conservative groups:

    ACU - American Conservative Union
    ATR - Americans for Tax Reform
    CWA - Concern Women for America
    Club4 - Club for Growth
    Eagle - Eagle Forum
    FRC - Family Research Council
    RTL - Right to Life
    TVC - Traditional Values Coalition

    ranking him as more conservative than all democrats except Ben Nelson of Nebraska (74%) and more conservative than 11 other Republican Senators. McCain actually only has low ratings from the Eagle Forum and Family Research Council. On all the others, he's between 65% and 100%

    Sure, he's no Jim DeMint of South Carolina, who gets a 97% rating from these conservative groups, but he's not by any stretch of the imagination a liberal.

    How do Obama and Clinton do, you ask?

    Obama (11% conservative, 80% liberal)

    Clinton (9% conservative, 82% liberal)

    McCain (73% conservative, 9% liberal)

    You want a liberal Republican? Try:

    Specter (41% conservative, 63% liberal)

    Snowe (39% conservative, 75% liberal)
     
  25. iJohnHenry macrumors P6

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    I followed the OP's original intent, and voted for McCain, but I too would like to see Obama go all the way.

    It ain't gonna happen.
     

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