North Korea is a huge problem for China too

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by PracticalMac, Sep 16, 2016.

  1. PracticalMac macrumors 68030


    Jan 22, 2009
    Houston, TX
    I am sure everyone has heard of nuclear tests and missiles that North Korea is always firing.

    And China is always next to its Communist "brother".

    Except NK is far from a good a neighbor.

    Bridge to nowhere shows China's failed efforts to engage North Korea

    It is a beautiful literal symbol of how rogue NK is, and how much effort China has made to make strong ties.
    NK does not give a crap for China, and China will only loose more if they keep trying to defend NK.

    Here is a Google Maps view of the bridge.
  2. Chew Toy McCoy macrumors regular

    Chew Toy McCoy

    May 13, 2016
    What exactly is China getting out of this relationship with North Korea? Is China always considering rolling back their totalitarian clock 100 years and North Korea is a modern day feasibility study on how that would go over in the 21st century?
  3. aaronvan Suspended


    Dec 21, 2011
    República Cascadia
    These days, China's only objective is to forestall the North Korean regime collapse and having 20 million refugees flooding into Manchuria.
  4. thermodynamic Suspended


    May 3, 2009
    Times change. The US used to be against Vietnam and its allies (like China) as well, and both those countries are still officially and still technically recognized as being "Communist" despite certain loosening of certain regulations that now allow certain private ownership of certain industries.
    --- Post Merged, Sep 16, 2016 ---
    And what is NK getting out of China? ;)
  5. MarkusL macrumors 6502

    Jun 1, 2014
    China prefers the status quo rather than the refugee crisis that would come with any large-scale conflict or collapse of government in North Korea.
  6. Plutonius macrumors 604


    Feb 22, 2003
    New Hampshire, USA
    Yep and they look like they are not concerned or want to do anything about North Korea as it applies to the US.
  7. vrDrew macrumors 65816

    Jan 31, 2010
    Midlife, Midwest
    China has a number of issues with North Korea.

    The most important is that they recognize that if the PRK government collapsed it would inevitably mean the entire Korean peninsula would be unified under a Government that was strongly allied with the US. And China doesn't want US bases in a Korea that bordered their country.

    I guess it might be possible for the US to make assurances to China that, in the event of a PRK collapse and subsequent reunification of Korea; that the US would agree to totally pull out all military forces from that country. But that would be a hard agreement to put into effect. The South Korean Government probably wouldn't necessarily go along with that. And what would the timetable for a US military withdrawal be? I could well imagine a period of several months of chaos inside the former N. Korea if the Government collapsed. And there would be all manner of military hardware, including loose nuclear materials. The US would certainly insist on keeping troops available to deal with that.

    The other issue is this: Were China to withdraw the support it does provide to Korea, it is pretty much impossible to foresee how that might play out. It could simply devolve into a massive humanitarian crisis; with millions of N. Koreans starving in the streets. Or the remains of the Government and military might lash out in unpredictable ways.

    I wouldn't say China likes the situation it has with North Korea. But the reality is that, as things now stand, its certainly preferable to many of the likely alternatives. And the Chinese government isn't stupid.
  8. Chew Toy McCoy macrumors regular

    Chew Toy McCoy

    May 13, 2016
    One thing I have hope for with this current generation up to bat or the one after is they’ll put a stop to these endless generational grudges that holds back progress for reasons that don’t really hold weight in the present. It’s ridiculous to feel that a small plot of land that is essentially a human rights violation zoo is hypothetically keeping the east and west from total war. Everybody is worried about military chess piece placement while corporations are already globally raping and pillaging unhindered.

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