North Korea says U.S. 'declared war' warns it could shoot down U.S. bombers

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  1. macduke macrumors G4

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    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...it-could-shoot-down-u-s-bombers-idUSKCN1C026A

    So Trump has now tweeted his way into a war. Great.

    I can't help but think this is the turning point where the crap starts to hit the fan. Doesn't that basically mean that if they consider it a declaration of war, that they're at war with us, and that's a definite change in language and escalation of tension? It also means that Trump would have expanded powers available to him during wartime.
     
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    oh please :rolleyes: war with NK was never declared as being "over" so this is irrelevant, funny you think tweets are a declaration of war but overlook Kim firing missiles all over the place and threatening Guam :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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    Quite hilarious that NK have accused the US and want the world to know it was the US that started it. We’ve had years of them firing missiles over other countries and bragging about having weapons to attack America lol. Bloody complete idiots.
     
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    If we've learned anything about NK in the past 10 years, its that they are much more bark than bite.

    You know the entire reason for them to do this is to extort money and fuel from the rest of the world. When countries pay them off they act less bad.

    Their fail safe is that the entire population is brain washed and that makes regime change hard to do. If we attacked them it would just be fulfilling a prophecy fed to the people.

    NK would have to fire on and hit one of the US bombers or ships or allied land to get a military response from US or SK forces.
     
  5. samcraig macrumors P6

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    Trump's insurance plan (effective or not) is to have a war so there is likely he will be impeached. After all - transitioning power during a war is "bad."
     
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    Don’t want US bombers shot down? Don’t fly them near north korea?
     
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    As pointed out already, we technically never ended war with NK.

    And they've been the aggressor in virtually every instance of actual firing/fighting since the U.S. hunkered down at the DMZ.

    *Edited to add "never" to convey what I originally intended
     
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    So uh... what has NK done to the USA?

    You do remember that the USA went to war with them over paranoia regarding communism in the 1950s? The USA bombed the crap out of them and killed their people for no good reason.

    The North Koreans most certainly have good reason to be massively angry at the united states.
     
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    [​IMG]

    guess it was also Bush's & Obama's insurance plan then?
     
  10. samcraig macrumors P6

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    No - neither Bush nor Obama were being considered for impeachment. Were they?
     
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    just pointing out that we were already at war when Trump started his reign,,,,,,,,,,,hence the reason your "insurance" does not apply at all.
     
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    Well Republicans were operating under stealth mode to impeach President Obama before he even took the oath of office.
     
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    According to other threads here on the PRSI his firing of missiles no where near Guam is evidence that Trump was "winning". :rolleyes:
     
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    Crack a nice history book please.
    The NK/SK division was a result of the vile Japanese invasion and occupation. The attack was from NK to SK, not the opposite. Furthermore, the US worked together with the UN.
     
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    Wow. Just wow!
     
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    North Korea is great at the saber rattle. The fact that they do it better than Trump must really piss him off. This will just goat him into saying something even worse on Twitter escalating this whole thing even more.
     
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    Trump? ahh......Rocketman has been instigating crap for years and started this one. THEY are the ones threatening to shoot us down, talking smack about sending us "packages" and toying with us and others by lobbing missiles around.
    --- Post Merged, Sep 25, 2017 ---

    See my previous post. In the end if they are still PO'd about the 50's then they need to stay in their hole of this world and stop jerking around with us and other countries.
     
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    North Korea has been trying to shoot down our planes for decades. They've shot missiles at our SR-71s, and they have shot down one or more helicopters that got lost and accidentally crossed the border.

    Not to mention the whole capture of the USS Pueblo mess.
     
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    He's fired two missiles are freaking Japan and caused them to start building up their own defenses out of fear of being attacked, with comments from Kim that he wants to sink them ... and it's the U.S.'s fault? I honestly don't understand people's logic in here. I also don't understand how North Korea has been allowed to stay in power when they've literally never listened to anyone ever. They're going to bring about their own destruction. I can't recall how many times Kim has told America he wants to turn them to ash ... and it's come long before Trump has made any statements of war. If anything, he's threatened war repeatedly and now he's just "shocked" that people aren't fond of his commentary and actions. Kim is an idiot.
     
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    Irrelevant. But thanks.
     
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    but but but Trump tweeted........................:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
  22. Macky-Mac macrumors 68030

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    you could extend that time frame back much further than 10 years.

    They're stuck with the same lack of a good military option that everybody has......hence the need for excessive posturing on both sides

    that was just to help get you fired up for your DOTARD2020!!!! campaign :p
     
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    It isn't at all irrelevant. Kim's been at this crap for years. The only difference now is he actually has nukes. So people are paying attention.
     
  24. macduke thread starter macrumors G4

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    Yeah, but there is an armistice, so officially war has never resumed, meaning we aren't currently in wartime. This might be the change into officiallly declared wartime. Our operations overseas, if I remember correctly, weren't officially declared. Furthermore, none of this crap was happening until Trump took office. He set off rocketboy in the first place by taunting him and pushing him to the brink. This isn't how you do diplomacy.

    The thing is Trump is threatening his position of power. He looks like a joke to his people and his inner circle when Trump taunts him, so he lashes out. My worry is Trump has pushed him to the point where his paranoia has spiraled out of control, and based on the things that Trump says and tweets, he feels completely justified in his paranoia and it only makes things worse. The way you win this is not to escalate into nuclear war. Nobody wins nuclear war. NOBODY.
     
  25. jerwin macrumors 68020

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    Read the linked article.

    that's an escalated threat.

    I agree that war would be catastrophic, and I don't trust Trump. But I don't trust Kim either.
     

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