Not Washing Hands for Freedom

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by samiwas, Feb 3, 2015.

  1. samiwas macrumors 68000

    Aug 26, 2006
    Atlanta, GA
    Is this really how far some people are willing to go to claim freedom?

    Is there really a big enough problem with requiring restaurant workers to wash their hands after going to the bathroom that it is seen as an affront to freedom?

    I'm seriously beginning to question the mental state of a large portion of our lawmakers.

    Senator Fights for Restaurant Employees' Rights to Not Wash Their Hands

    And, since Duck will likely question the source, here are a few more:
    Huffington Post
    District Sentinel
    The Hill
    Boston Herald
    Fox News
    Washington Post

  2. Kaylor macrumors regular


    Oct 18, 2011
    Long Island, NY/Houston, TX
    As if I didn't have enough reasons to not want to eat out.
  3. aaronvan Suspended


    Dec 21, 2011
    República Cascadia
    Having worked in a fast food restaurant, I would never, ever, eat at a fast food restaurant.
  4. 0007776 Suspended


    Jul 11, 2006
    I feel like allowing restaurants to opt out of having their employees have to wash their hands makes about as much sense as allowing parents to opt their kids out of vaccinations.
  5. citizenzen macrumors 65816

    Mar 22, 2010
    Cool. Now we can look forward to non-immunized people not washing their hands after they go to the bathroom.
  6. steve knight macrumors 68030

    steve knight

    Jan 28, 2009
  7. Renzatic Suspended


    Aug 3, 2011
    Gramps, what the hell am I paying you for?
    Hmm. Know what that taste is? FREEDOM! It has a spicy tang to it, sorta like trichinosis.
  8. APlotdevice macrumors 68040


    Sep 3, 2011
    Wow... it's like GOP is trying to become the "pro-disease" party. :rolleyes:
  9. iBlazed macrumors 68000


    Feb 27, 2014
    New Jersey, United States
  10. Renzatic Suspended


    Aug 3, 2011
    Gramps, what the hell am I paying you for?
    Hey, if I wanna die crapping myself while coughing up blood, that's my right.

    Sorry you got sick, too. But hey, just think of yourself as collateral damage sustained during my fight for freedom. It'll make you feel better. At least for a little while.
  11. steve knight macrumors 68030

    steve knight

    Jan 28, 2009

    Seems some kind of genetic defect. They just can't seem to help themselves
  12. hulugu macrumors 68000


    Aug 13, 2003
    quae tangit perit Trump
    At this point, I'm pretty sure they're tolling the collective citizenry. There's no way that a person at this level could think that this is A) a good idea and B) worth the time of even the deepest, most forgotten about committee in either house.

    Moreover, what restaurant in their right mind would be wiling to accept the oncoming negligence suit they'll be slapped with if they don't require employees to wash their hands.
  13. LizKat macrumors 601


    Aug 5, 2004
    Catskill Mountains
    North Carolina should have re-elected their former senator, Democrat Kay Hagan. She only lost by 2%. Must be at least that many voters feeling the pangs of buyer's remorse right about now. Senator Tillis certainly provides ammo for people busily collecting examples of why they believe the Republicans are brain dead when it comes to making sensible policy.

    Even if Tillis claims, as I believe he is doing now, that he was more or less joking about something like that in order to make a point about self-regulatory capacity of the markets, and that his audience at the time understood that, he picked a way wrong example in this time of concern about Ebola and now measles. One can't even ask what he was thinking. Even with talking points passed out to these guys, they can't think past the bubble of their own ad libbed punchlines.

    The RNC must be in a panic. The run-ups to the 2016 season haven't even got off the ground yet and their loose cannons who aren't even candidates have already run amok. Wait until the actual candidates for nomination get out there looking for free TV exposure. What could go wrong then when it really matters?!

    /stocks up on popcorn
  14. LIVEFRMNYC macrumors 604

    Oct 27, 2009
    Because their hands are dirty. :p
  15. scjr macrumors 68020


    Jan 28, 2013
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    thekev macrumors 604


    Aug 5, 2010
    For whatever reason that reminded me of Pet Semetary. "We bury our own...". Too bad that guy from the shovel fight doesn't live in North Carolina. It also would have been funny if he said he was washing his hands of regulation.
  17. rdowns macrumors Penryn


    Jul 11, 2003

    I wish I could agree with you. I don't think they're trolling, I think they are pandering to and fanning the flames of ignorance. We're pretty close to the Republican Party slogan; America, Celebrate the Ignorance.
  18. sim667 macrumors 65816

    Dec 7, 2010
    Im not sure there's enough clean handed facepalms on the internet for this.
  19. sodapop1 Suspended


    Sep 7, 2014
    Ignorance sells and as evidenced by the success of Fox News, business is good.
  20. samiwas thread starter macrumors 68000

    Aug 26, 2006
    Atlanta, GA
    I mean, maybe he's just saying "that's the type of thing we're talking about" when he says "we're so overly regulated" and he doesn't actually believe it. But, it does truly sound like this is something he wants to see eliminated in our quest for freedom.

    Newsflash, will never have total freedom as long as you live in a society with other people. Something's gotta give. And if you're preparing food for others, wash your damn hands. If that makes you feel oppressed, then I'd say there are far greater problems going on inside.
  21. Arran macrumors 601


    Mar 7, 2008
    Atlanta, USA
    Watched the video. I didn't take this as a proposal to eliminate hand washing. It was intended as an illustration of how a free market would compensate for reduced regulation: Folks would boycott the business and it would fail. Seems reasonable, huh?

    Where his reasoning falls down entirely is that he states he would require business owners to their disclose their unhygienic policy (through signage, etc) to the public. But hang on a minute. That's a government-imposed obligation on the business. It's regulation - Just a different regulation.

    So with his nice little illustration he sounds more "free market", "business friendly" and "anti-Nanny-State"- but he's no different from the rest.

    Career politician at work!
  22. Huntn macrumors P6


    May 5, 2008
    The Misty Mountains
    Better question, why are they elected? I scorn the GOP, but really it's the nincompoops electing them. I'm alarmed about this country's future. If there are any positive crumbs it's that my decision to dump the GOP has been reinforced, confirmed, and vindicated too many times to mention. ;)
  23. sodapop1 Suspended


    Sep 7, 2014
    The answer is simple, lack of education. The GOP knows how to talk to their targeted audience.

    The unfortunate reality is that this country will be in constant political gridlock until the uneducated wake up to the reality that the American economy is shifting more and more towards a high skilled labor force. Just graduating high school or getting a GED simply won't cut it anymore.
  24. Tomorrow macrumors 604


    Mar 2, 2008
    Always a day away
    I suspect the point he's trying to make is that, even without regulation, some issues are capable of working themselves out. In that regard, he has a point - if a restaurant openly advertised that they don't require their employees to wash their hands, people would stop eating there - the problem would pretty much take care of itself.
  25. balamw Moderator


    Staff Member

    Aug 16, 2005
    New England
    As pointed out above, his example is not without regulation. He's just substituting one regulation for another. The rules by which a busness "opts out" would need to be spelled out and policed somehow.

    In certain parts of the country, restaurants have to post a large sign with the results of their health department inspection. (e.g. it does no good if they post such a thing on the interior wall of their broom closet in 3 point font or on page 59 of the newspaper that no one reads.

    Doesn't stop patrons from eating at a place with a B or a C rating.


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