NY Times - Woman Tortured for 19 Hours

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  1. benthewraith macrumors 68040

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    I lost my stomache reading this. I'm speechless. :eek:

    Rest of article can be found here:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/06/n...15&ei=5124&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink
     
  2. dukebound85 macrumors P6

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    i hope that dude burns in hell:mad:

    no one deserves that

    so so sad:(
     
  3. iJohnHenry macrumors P6

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    The ******* should have been shot dead by the first cop on the scene.

    "He" does not deserve even 15 seconds of fame for this.
     
  4. thechidz macrumors 68000

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    this actually happened last year. I was on campus and am still shocked that this hasn't gotten more attention. I am not trying to start any arguments but there are feelings around campus that the reason it hasn't gotten as much attention is because the woman was white and the rapist was a black man. Whereas in the noose hanging incident (which was also repulsive by the way) got instant worldwide media coverage. Not to suggest that the noose hanging incident wasn't terrible, but it kind of makes you wonder where media agenda falls sometimes no?
     
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    Animals are animals, no matter what the pigment colour.

    He should have been "off-ed", on the spot!!
     
  6. MrSmith macrumors 68040

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    The guy must be insane. Surely no sane human being could do that. If he isn't insane then this is another argument for the death penalty.
     
  7. iJohnHenry macrumors P6

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    Look out (for me especially.)

    Why the distinction??

    Mother Nature (Blessings Be Upon Her Name) would have taken care of this anomaly early-on.
     
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    Supposedly sane people do this kind of thing every day. Adding to the sum of violence by summary or even deliberated execution is no solution. Life imprisonment may be the only answer.
     
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    Why are you still up, stinky. ;)

    But life imprisonment is a penalty to Society as well.

    Why??
     
  10. skunk macrumors G4

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    Please stick to the topic.

    Judicial murder is an abomination in its dehumanising, its calculation, its random application and its vengefulness, and it leaves no possibility for correction, either of a mistake or of the perpetrator. The purely financial cost difference of either option is firstly irrelevant and secondly marginal.
     
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    Sorry to say, but the economics does come into play, in these times.

    A waste of skin is just that. Why make the individual linger on???
     
  12. skunk macrumors G4

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    Even if life imprisonment were twice as expensive (and it is not, the difference - as I said - is marginal) as execution, to even consider the cost as a criterion for justice is completely unacceptable. If we as a society choose to kill people for money's sake, how can we lay claim to any civilisation at all?
     
  13. Iscariot macrumors 68030

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    Do you have any idea how well she's recovered from the ordeal?

    You're right, it does. Life imprisonment is far cheaper than execution.

    Life imprisonment is far cheaper than execution. There are zero social or economic factors that are improved through capital punishment.
     
  14. skunk macrumors G4

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    We are in agreement.

    Despite your threats of refrigerator abuse.
     
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    The reason I hate the insanity plea is because EVERY act that seems so deranged can be argued to have been done by an insane person, as only an insane person would be insane enough to do it. It just seems like an argument that can be used for any person who has done something particularly bad.
     
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    no, which is very sad since I am a student here...This is the first I've heard about it since it happened and when it did I was shocked there wasn't more media coverage... why?

    I guess people just don't want the truth when it gets too real
     
  17. Sun Baked macrumors G5

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    All it takes is for her to visit one of the white gangs at the prison and I'm sure the cute black guy will be raped for more than 19 hours.

    Always good to do what you can to help those in prison see the light of god.
     
  18. MrSmith macrumors 68040

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    Wow, wished I hadn't mention capital punishment... For the record, I do not support it, but this is one of those cases that could be used as an argument for it. Whatever, the victim should never have to suffer this guy walking around free again. Prison or hospital for life.
     
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    I will accept that challenge.

    If you can produce ANY evidence that this individual is worthy of saving, I will recant my call for the death penalty.
     
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    I tend to think that the death penalty is OK if there's no way such a person can be rehabilitated. Killing people while robbing a bank, or in some gang violence is one thing, but this type of crime is entirely different.
     
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    Thank you.

    There might yet be hope for our civilisation.

    Bleed-heart skunks notwithstanding.

    ;)
     
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    Please don't get me wrong. I know I come across as someone who is all for the death penalty, since I always say all these mofos should be killed off, but only articles about really heinous crimes are ever posted here, so my answer is always atypical of how I generally feel about it.

    I agree with Skunk in a general sense, but in certain cases such as this one, I can't.
     
  23. Iscariot macrumors 68030

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    Skunk is not the only one who opposes the death penalty. You have also changed the goalposts. Before, it was economic. Now that that has been dismissed, it's about producing evidence of an abstract concept? Where will it be set next?

    Here's one for you: burden of proof. If you want an action undertaken (death penalty), it is you who must make the case that it is an improvement upon the alternatives. What makes the death penalty a better choice than life imprisonment? Show your work.

    Where do we draw the line? Where can we say "here, and no further"?
     
  24. iJohnHenry macrumors P6

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    [​IMG]

    What is this, some requisite course for college??

    If you feel this individual is worthy of saving, step forward, and provide for his room and board.

    Bleeding-heart Liberals give me heartburn.
     

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