"Obama’s claim that the GOP has ‘blocked every serious idea’"

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-that-the-gop-has-blocked-every-serious-idea/

    Article has much more.
     
  2. Mac'nCheese macrumors 68030

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    That's what Mitch said he would do. After all, this is the GOP that won't even hold hearings on the Supreme Court nominee.
     
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    Gotta agree; if anybody believes this is a stunt on the GOP's part, nobody's begun to put together any reasoning, regardless of how cogent or wackadoo it might be. The sad part is, it proves Obama was wasting his time with compromising. :( Kudos for trying, but it's sad. Hillary will probably stand up to them a lot better, which I believe is what the majority of Americans would want.
     
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    People have got to vote the GOP out of Congress for anything to get done. Remember, this is the party that wouldn't agree to help first responders until they got their tax cuts extended.
     
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    The idea of "getting things done" needs to change. The reason for having 2 parties is to prevent bad law. Grid lock can be good.
     
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    but if it blocks good law it is ok? what about blocking judge nominations h0ow is that a good thing?
     
  7. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    That's not the reason for having two parties at all.

    Two dominant parties emerged naturally from a winner take all system, not from some intended desire to prevent bad law.
     
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    I think that's the idea behind three branches of government. And there is a big difference between grid lock and not doing your job at all cause you're butt hurt that your man didn't win.
     
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    The one BIG thing Obama DID get done was ObamaCare... How's that working? Maybe we should allow Obama to become dictator and get everything he wants. Then the Left will finally see what happens. Even now, they blame every BUT Obama for ObamaCare, ironic because it actually has his name on it.

    I wonder if the Left would agree to having Obama as a dictator as long as the Right got to split the nation in half so the Right could be dictator of their own nation.
     
  10. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    It would work better if Republicans had any desire to fix the legislation.

    But then we're back to that gridlock thing.

    Thanks Republicans.
     
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    Amazing "logic". Dems had control, Dems passed it, it's failing and it's the fault to the GOP.
    The whole thing was DESIGNED to fail.

    The person that created it SAID what it was and that it would pass because Americans are STUPID.

    He was right, American's are too stupid to see it for what it is.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...6bd390a3340_story.html?utm_term=.17d9b367db94

    If Obama knocked on your door, sat you down and told you it was all a lie, would you finally see it as it is?

    How much longer does the world have to wait for you to get it?

    Have you even watched the Gruber videos? It CAN'T be fixed, it CAN'T work.

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    Fix it how? The moron spent over 300 Million just introducing a tax package that penalized people for not buying in and still left them w/o insurance. Ovluekess sold out the population to the insurance industry and most liberals are too blind to admit it
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    Republicans don't want your nominees for the same reason you don't want trump to win and kick judges that favor republicans. Simple as that
     
  13. Mac'nCheese macrumors 68030

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    No, that's completely wrong. Sorry lover, but a lot of the republicans actually like the nominee and have said in the past he would be a good judge. They don't want to even hold hearings on him now because they swore to make sure that Obama got nothing accomplished if they could help if.
     
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    Darling, Source please
     
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    It's our job to fix the legislation. Vote the losers out. We keep electing the same flaccid, ineffectual losers to office.
     
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    Garland is a setup. Obama knows his stance on guns. It's a NO-GO for the SC no matter his stance on other issues. The SC is different.

    The GOP is trying to keep their guns legally because they know what happens when they lose their guns. Simple as that.
     
  18. Herdfan macrumors 6502

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    Which I completely disagreed with. Hold the hearings and give him a vote.

    But in Mitch's defense, Biden himself said the same thing when he was in the Senate, so I guess they are playing by the same rules. Known as the Biden rule.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...8cde5a-d9b1-11e5-925f-1d10062cc82d_story.html
     
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    How is someone whom the GOP once liked a set up? Is that like how asking anyone on the right pretty much anything nowadays is a gotcha question?
     
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    He was selected because of his views on guns. His views on guns doesn't matter until he gets to the SC, the SC rulings on guns is the only ones that matters.
     
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    Are these views new? The GOP liked him until Obama nominated him.
     
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    The views on guns doesn't matter until you're on the SC. You do at least understand that the SC is different? Do you understand why it's different? Do you understand his views on guns?
     
  23. Limey77 macrumors regular

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    It's because of this childish attitude that the republicans need to lose this election in a landslide.

    For eight years now they've been holding the American people hostage to their ideals - despite not being elected. They've made it their mission to undermine the office of the president in any and every way. Then as they failed and Obama got reelected easily they turned their attention to Hillary and have been working non-stop for four years to liable and slander her at every turn. And November is crunch time if they (somehow against all odds) win, then in their small minds it will justify this type of negative politics.

    If however, and much more likely, they lose in one of the biggest landslides in history, then they'll be forced to rethink their entire modus operandi - hopefully for the better. I mean it couldn't possibly be for the worse.
     
  24. citizenzen, Sep 3, 2016
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    It was ground breaking legislation that would need adjusting once it had time to take effect in the real world. It's the obstructionism that keeps any adjustments from occurring that is the problem. It was also Republican resistance that prevented a public option to be implemented that would have helped control prices.

    Edit: for an example of how laws needs to adjusted over time, look at the amendment history of Social Security ...
    Where would Social Security be today if Republicans had been dead set against doing anything to fix it for the long term?
     
  25. Limey77 macrumors regular

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    Even more important is all the concessions that had to be made just to get it through in the first place.

    As much as I love the principle of the ACA, the republicans did just about enough to ensure it wouldn't fully succeed. But 100% credit to Obama for being bold enough to take the first step, history will remember him well for his vision and courage in the face of adversity.

    The good news is we have 8 years for Hillary to fine tune it, the first two of which at least when she'll have a majority!!

    Soon all Americans will be receiving (nearly) the same level of care the rest of the world has for the last 60 years.
     

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