Obama Administration Opens Up Thousands Of Acres

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  1. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    Thought he was for greener energy?

    http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2015/06/01/3664633/blm-coal-lease-decision/
     
  2. VulchR macrumors 68020

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    We'd be much better off abandoning coal and retraining coal workers to work in the renewables industry. I live not far from a coastal forest located just behind the dunes on a beach on the North Sea. The forest is just a few feet above sea level. Trees that have been there for over 100 years are starting to die because the water table is rising. Frankly it's scary. I suspect it has more to do with rainfall than rising sea levels, but dunes are being lost to the action of the sea. I do not understand why we continue to burn fossil fuels. We need petrochemicals for plastics, but we shouldn't be creating an environmental mess our kids and grandkids will have to endure.

    I was in Cleveland when the Cayahoga River caught fire.
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    I thought we'd gotten the message about pollution back then.
     
  3. ericgtr12 macrumors 6502a

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    If the headline was "Obama Administration Closes Up Thousands Of Acres To Coal Miners"
    your response would be "why does he hate coal miners?"

    jkcerda, I really do enjoy your posts, it's getting a story from Fox News where regardless of it's origin, it's spun to fit your agenda.
     
  4. jkcerda thread starter macrumors 6502

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    well, if you believe thingprogress is the same as faux news then I have no problem with that :D
     
  5. vrDrew macrumors 65816

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    From the article:

    I'm sure everyone would like a solution that let everyone keep their jobs; kept companies profitable; and didn't cause any pollution.

    But the real world is a little more complicated like that. And for some problems, there simply aren't always easy answers.
     
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    Obama is opening coal fields at the same time Hillary is promising to put coal miners on the welfare rolls. Talk about dysfunctional insanity. Time to blow-up the DNC once and for all.
     
  7. vrDrew macrumors 65816

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    Obama opening up coal fields = Bad

    Hillary Clinton closing coal fields = Bad

    Sounds to me that no matter what Democrats do, you kvetch about it. Talk about dysfunctional...
     
  8. Robisan macrumors 6502

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    Lol. No, he (rightly) thinks you are the same as faux news. :eek:
     
  9. thermodynamic Suspended

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    Or realistic. Too many variables making a transition impossible. I'm all for any number of things, but Obama has a point about realistic and reasonable compromise, regardless of any of our individual opinions are. And during the time frame indicated, as we continue to migrate to other fuel sources that also become cheaper and increasingly effective (I'd love to do solar on my house, as I've seen farms using solar to complement their needs and I don't need nearly as much as they do) but I digress, usage will continue to go down. Obviously there are numerous long-term considerations on a number of issues other than what I adumbrated. Party of me dreams of "instant overnight change" but that's not realistic and even environmentalists in position of ability know that as well. These things can't magically happen overnight. Even a cynic like myself has to take a step back at times, and I need to do that more often.
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    Same party, wide range of beliefs that don't always get met lockstep. And unlike the GOP, Democrats are less inclined to "toe the line". Which can be a strength and a weakness.
     
  10. thewap macrumors demi-god

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    It is not complicated..we have clean coal technology - you know like a catalytic converter re-burning the smoke and gases.. thats the little secret that the libs do not want to share.

    If pollution was the issue, we would not be selling all our coal to the Chinese who do not have clean coal tech.

    Selling out our natural resources while putting America out of energy jobs = PROFIT! big govt crony to big corps butt kissing China.
     

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