Obama aims for oil independence

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  1. edesignuk Moderator emeritus

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    BBC.

    More good things, hopefully they follow through.
     
  2. és: macrumors 6502a

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    This is a seriously hard thing to do but if you aim for the stars...
     
  3. Akitakoi macrumors regular

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    About time we have a president with some balls!;)
     
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    Oh, Bush had balls, he just demonstrated that fact with all the wrong decisions.
     
  5. bradl macrumors 68040

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    We already had one with balls. They were in Monica's mouth along with the rest of the phallus. ;)

    BL.
     
  6. és: macrumors 6502a

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    He sure did; he often compalined of impered vision.
     
  7. t0mat0 macrumors 603

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    Interesting push. Energy is going to be one hell of an issue in the next few years, even more than it is currently
    But he's got to get the pessimistic CO2 levels and taken on board, to create action at the large level required to not get runaway CO2 release, and subsequent problems (sea level rises, etc)
     
  8. leekohler macrumors G5

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    Awesome! This is great! Obama is not wasting any time.
     
  9. Motley macrumors 6502

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    Sometimes you hit London?

    Oh wait, that was Von Braun.
     
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    Well, the rhetoric is all good. Let's see deeds follow these words before we get all excited though...
     
  11. iAthena macrumors regular

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    I hope he doesn't think that installing a few wind turbines around the country is going to take up the energy slack.

    Sales of trucks and SUVs just climbed again just because of a couple months of cheaper gas when Americans must realize that they'll go back up sooner than later.

    I don't see how he'll make this a reality without either rationing fuel or adding a hefty tax on each gallon of gas to keep the price artificially higher. I'd love to see a politician do that for our own good and then try to run for re-election.
     
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    One of the reasons the eurozone wasn't so negatively impacted by high oil prices is because they have high fuel taxes. I really don't see any way of creating energy independence without an increase in gas taxes. Overconsumption is the root of the problem.
     
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    Over the past year driving has been down. If people are not driving why are the prices going back up.
     
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    Just wondering, who is consuming too much fuel?

    (not trying to instigate, but was curious)
     
  15. Ugg macrumors 68000

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    Oversupply during the last few months of last year. Now that supply and demand are temporarily in line, it only makes sense that prices will rise. Most oil producers need $50-80 a barrel in order to break even. Depressing the price of oil is not in our best interests if the world's economies start failing.
     
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    SUVs, oversized homes, sprawling suburbs, etc.
     
  17. MacNut macrumors Core

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    So how were they surviving for the past 30 years when oil was $20
     
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    Yes, he is a male, I will give him that.

    But Dick had a vice-grip on them, for sure.
     
  19. Ugg macrumors 68000

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    Oil has gone from boom to bust repeatedly over the years. Don't you remember the late 80s?

    You also have to remember that much of the easy oil is gone. Chantrel in the Gulf of Mexico is drying up so is the North Sea. The oil sands of Alberta are horribly expensive and Nigeria is a security nightmare.

    The oil that is left is increasingly difficult and expensive to extract. Brazil needs billions and billions just to build the infrastructure needed to exploit its new finds.

    Jed Clampett would be an anomaly these days.
     
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    Lets hope our D.A. Congress figures it out this time around, a few nuclear plants, more wind farms, push solar power everywhere and energy efficiency along with cars that get 40 mpg and we can say good bye to the Mideast.:) There are still dams to be built, geothermal power to be had and even wave power but we do have a huge stumbling block and thats a D.A. Congress thats bought off by the corporations. Go Obama!
     
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    Dont forget that all those projects mean jobs jobs jobs!

    Congress would still have to allow the plans....
     
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    I'd certainly rather see a trillion dollars go towards building power plants than bailing out either banks or car companies.
     
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    or a pointless war for a trillion dollars. talk about waste. only one reason for this and it was oil. Obama gets it, Congress on the other hand gets nothing.
     
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    That's pretty impressive if they were at the same time. :eek:
    At least he graduated to not hitting the moon. ;)
     
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    GWB had them. He thought with them. Fortunately, now there's a president using his brain.
     

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