Obama Authorizes Airstrikes in Syria as Part of

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  1. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/09/1...ria-part-comprehensive-and-sustained-strategy

    we had no business in Libya & sure as hell not Syria.
     
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    Interesting. Obama has just effectively declared war on Syria. This should go well.
     
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    its NOT war when the U.S bombs another country .
     
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    Exceptionalism, dontcha love it?
     
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    would be nice if I could afford to leave. :(
     
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    I see. And what term would you care to use to describe the act of bombing another country?

    Just curious; I have a deep interest in and study closely how language is used in such circumstances and - ah - contexts….
     
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    Perhaps the battery in your Ironimeter™ is flat. I took the inclusion of the "US" to be a clue...
     
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    Sounds more like they intend to embed with unnamed parties and will bomb ISIS.
     
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    Sometimes, the use of words in such settings goes well beyond the capacity of irony to keep pace in attempting to describe what is happening with any desire of……accuracy…..

    My 'Ironimeter' battery may well be flat, - indeed, I suspect that it is - but I expect to hear terms such as "Intervention", "Targeted Assistance" and similar before too long. After 'Freedom Fries' made an appearance on menus, I'm afraid that my Ironimeter baulked a bit at some of the fresh linguistic challenges presented…..
     
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    Bombing another country without their agreement is an act of war. No two ways about it.
     
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    You think Assad wasn't contacted in advance?

    This is dirty wars, and politics are playing out behind the scenes.

    Air strikes? With what assets on the ground calling the plays? Rebels? Hell no.

    CIA + Special forces + combat controllers + Syrian military security detail sounds about right.
     
  12. jkcerda thread starter macrumors 6502

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    That is not very patriotic of you, you have been reported to the NSA, the NDAA extraction team is on its way to intercept you.
    we managed to bomb Libya w/o calling it war.
     
  13. skunk macrumors G4

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    I'll stand my ground.
     
  14. jkcerda thread starter macrumors 6502

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    you can only do that against civilians, the "good" guys in uniform can do as they please.
     
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    A rose by any other name smells just as sweet. Or rank.
     
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    I do believe that the use of POLICE ACTION is an accepted way of getting round the BAD word of WAR.:p

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_action
     
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    When bombs are falling, the people below don't question whether it is an act of war or a humanitarian effort.
     
  18. jkcerda thread starter macrumors 6502

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    we sent "freedumb" bombs to Libya. we are doing nothing here but the will of the Syrian people , Assad must go so we can install the muslim brotherhood like we did in Libya & assure ourselves plenty of terrorist so we can continue to be at war forever.
     
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    What a depressing prognosis. Unfortunately, it contains far too many…….possibly accurate……….scenarios…...
     
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    Only Congress can declare war. So technically, it's not a war, but a police action based on the President's authority as the commander-in-chief of the military (Article 2, Section 2, Clause 1 of the Constitution).

    Just like how the Vietnam War was a police action, because congress never formally declared war. Police action. War. Same thing IMO.
     
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    Perhaps an inability to see the difference Is the problem in places like Ferguson. Police are civilians.
     
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    Good Frackin Grief people. It's a WAR.

    No need to debate it endlessly..Common sense should tell you when one country bombs a different country they have made it a war.
     
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    Technically, we're not bombing a country but a stateless terror group. But yeah, it's a war.
     
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    Technically, the bombs will be landing in a country.
     
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    its ok as long as they are not landing in the U.S.; what are they going to do? do something crazy like fly a plane into our buildings? come in as refugee's & put bombs during a marathon? that will NEVER happen. you GOT to LOVE our foreign policy, arm the rebels, then bomb the rebels, then remove dictators from office just to put in other dictators in place, pacification by force , love it, anyone who disagrees should be in GITMO getting water boarded as they might be terrorist.
     

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