Obama - best president for two generations

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  1. dogslobber macrumors 68020

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    The graphic says nothing at all other than maybe Obama's America gained jobs over the past eight years. There is no comparison data given.
     
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    You need to acquire the graph from the previous president(s) in order to support your case.
     
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    Reagan's net job growth over eight years was 16.1 million (forbes).

    That's with 100 million less people in the population as well
     
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    Great Obama added more burger flipping jobs.....:rolleyes:
     
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    Not only that but with quantitative easing in full effect for his entire term, lowest interest rates in history, and largest growth in national debt in the country. Even having comparison data would not make a fair comparison.
     
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    For comparison sake 145K per month is break even for population growth.
     
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    Obama created more jobs than any other president in generations.
    The science is settled.

    Russians hacked and manipulated the presidential election.
    The science is settled.

    The only reason that a person can possibly oppose the Unaffordable Care Act is racial bigotry.
    The science is settled.

    ~Liberals, 2016
     
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    Nope. Regan and Clinton were our best presidents ever. Awesome financial times for productive members of society. Of course, lazy losers had it rough but when do they NOT have it rough?
     
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    Maybe you'd like us to close down all the fast food places? These are still vital jobs, and someone has to do them. Everyone can't be a CEO.
     
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    Yes all those lazy loosers so many of them terrible we all know anyone that needs help is a lazy looser drug addict welfare queen.
     
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    All those pathetic jobs make ceo rich.
     
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    That's not the point. Too many of the jobs added over the last eight years are low wage and part time. A sign of economic weakness.
     
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    This is why you're the only person I'm ignoring.
     
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    Hardly. More people have been taken out of the workforce since the Great Depression. Makes your jobless numbers look great when people stop looking for work.

    Highest welfare roles in history.

    Worst foreign policy results since Carter.

    Most corrupt government ever.

    Fail.
     
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    That is the point. If you think low wage jobs are a sign of economic weakness, hold onto your hat cause we're about to get a lot weaker when minimum wage is reduced!

    Low wage jobs are still jobs. You cannot pay burger flippers and trash collectors the same salaries as lawyers and doctors.
     
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    Let's face it you could put a complete dribbler in the seat after Bush and they'd do a better job. With Trump about to take power I think Obama is going to look pretty good for this generation.
     
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    You should know long term unemployement remains higher than at the start of the Great Depression so it's a bipartisan issue.

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    IMO Obama is just an Ok president. He wasn't the greatest but he wasn't bad at all. In our current times to be an Ok president is IMO pretty hard to attain.
     
  19. dogslobber thread starter macrumors 68020

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    I thought about Clinton but 41 didn't commit the same financial vandalism that 43 did so Clinton had a head start on Obama. The evidence in the graph shows what a safe pair of hands Obama was so we're lucky he got 2 terms to right the ship. God help us now.
     
  20. Jess13, Jan 2, 2017
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    You mean the same Obama who’s:

    ▹ bombed more countries than Bush—bombing seven predominently Muslim nations;
    ▹ been at war his entire presidency and at war longer than any other president, committing endless war crimes and crimes against humanity for Empire;
    ▹ led the Afghanistan “surge” that got nearly 1,000 American soldiers killed for nothing, and who knows how many Afghans;
    ▹ armed terrorists, including al-Qaeda and ISIS, in conspiracy with CIA and 9/11 Saudis, giving them thousands of machine guns and heavy machine guns, thousands of AK-47 assault rifles, millions of rounds of ammuntion, ATGW systems and missiles, literally training AL-QAEDA and ISIS in the Obama-CIA Timber Sycamore terrorist arming ‘train and equip’ program, while crying faked tears for U.S. victims of gun violence as he gives machine guns to terrorists;
    ▹ armed other jihadists, such as al-Zenki, who in July 2016 kidnapped an injured 12-year-old boy from hospital (see the IV in his arm) then cut his head off while yelling “Allāhu akbar!” terrorists who fire indiscriminate mortars into civilian buildings and also send suicide bombers to kill men and women, and still are referred to by Obama as ‘moderates’;
    ▹ killed American-Muslim teenager Abdulrahman al-Awlaki with drone;
    ▹ killed other terrorists’ family members with drones, bombs and missiles;
    ▹ killed more civilians with drones than Osama killed civilians with planes, and that’s only in Pakistan alone, and increased the drone terrorism at least 10x what Bush did;
    ▹ first year of his presidency fired Cruise missiles at dirt poor civilians in al-Majalah, murdering 14 women, 5 of whom were pregnant, and 20+ children and babies;
    ▹ sold more weaponry and arms than any other president in history, this includes $100,000,000,000+ to Saudi Arabia;
    ▹ starved thousands of Muslim children and babies to death in Yemen, while actively helping Saudi Arabia to bomb them in series’ of endless civilian-targeting war crimes;
    ▹ first and only Nobel Peace Prize winner to bomb another Nobel Peace Prize winner (Doctors Without Borders in Afghanistan), and won the Nobel for his promise to ‘work toward a world without nuclear weapons’ then reduced the nuclear weapons stockpile less than any other president—including less than both Bushes—and instead implemented the plan to spend $1,000,000,000,000 on rebuilding and modernizing the entire U.S. nuclear capabilities: the bombs, missiles, planes, submarines, ships, everything;
    ▹ helped Hillary to destroy Libya, in part by arming jihadist ‘rebels’ who used Obama and Hillary’s guns to perpetrate the Black Libyan Genocide (and to mass murder numerous other Christians and Muslims alike), causing a far worsened refugee crisis which has led to the drownings of untold thousands of other black men, women and children, in addition to the other refugee crises he has caused, such as from Syria, where untold other thousands of men, women and children have drowned trying to escape;
    ▹ protected Bush administration war criminals for torture and all their other crimes including the Iraq War, 9/11 related treason, and illegal domestic spying;
    ▹ on and on and on, such as:
    ▹ promised to protect whistleblowers but instead has targeted and/or imprisoned more whistleblowers than all previous POTUS’ combined x2, this includes being the first POTUS to imprison black (Jeffrey Sterling) and transgendered (Chelsea Manning) whistleblowers who exposed Bush-era crimes;
    ▹ continued the Bush-started illegal NSA spying programs and expanded them worse than anything Bush did, worse spying programs than have ever existed in human history, this includes Obama forcing APPLE into participating in PRISM, with Obama illegally spying on YOU and all other Apple services users;
    ▹ vetoed the pro-9/11 families bill JASTA, which was overruled by virtually unanimous Congress, Obama’s only successfully overridden veto of his presidency, which would allow 9/11 families to seek justice against 9/11 Saudis that Obama has treasonously armed al-Qaeda and ISIS with.

    The list is nearly endless. President Obama is the worst president of all-time. Period.
     
  21. dogslobber thread starter macrumors 68020

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    Anybody who claims 43 was better than Obama loses the argument immediately. I don't think many are brave to frame their argument that way but there's always one...
     
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    G.W. Bush was a useless piece of ****. Obama is worse than Bush. It is no contest. Read the list.
     
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    Don't bother. The lefties are devoted. They won't be swayed. They're dug in. Obama was the worst, hands down. He launched the national debt into the ionosphere. He crippled lower middle class families with the laughable ACA. The list is endless (although your list is a good start).
     
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    44 bombed more county than 43 and signed indefinite detention w/trial into law
     
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    43 is a war criminal. Let's leave it at that.
     

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