Obama continues to gut Clinton welfare reforms. Adults getting food stamps doubles.

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by thewitt, Sep 21, 2012.

  1. thewitt macrumors 68020

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    So clearly, if your economic policies are failing, you can win votes by committing more people to the government teat.

    http://nation.foxnews.com/food-stam...doubles-after-obama-suspends-work-requirement

    'Obama administration officials have insisted that their decision to grant states waivers to redefine work requirements for welfare recipients would not “gut” the landmark 1996 welfare reform law. But a new report from the Congressional Research Service obtained by the Washington Examiner suggests that the administration’s suspension of a separate welfare work requirement has already helped explode the number of able-bodied Americans on food stamps.

    In addition to the broader work requirement that has become a contentious issue in the presidential race, the 1996 welfare reform law included a separate rule encouraging able-bodied adults without dependents to work by limiting the amount of time they could receive food stamps. President Obama suspended that rule when he signed his economic stimulus legislation into law, and the number of these adults on food stamps doubled, from 1.9 million in 2008 to 3.9 million in 2010, according to the CRS report, issued in the form of a memo to House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Va.

    “This report once again confirms that President Obama has severely gutted the welfare work requirements that Americans have overwhelmingly supported since President Clinton signed them into law,” Cantor said in an emailed statement. “It’s time to reinstate these common-sense measures, and focus on creating job growth for those in need.”

    Under the rule adopted in 1996, food stamps for able-bodied adults without dependents were limited to three months in a 36-month period unless the participant in the program “works at least 20 hours a week; participates in an employment and training program for at least 20 hours per week; or participates in a (Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program) ‘workfare’ program for at least 20 hours per week.”'
     
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  3. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    never mind the fact that unemployment is still high from Bush, we have the party of no blocking any real changes to make thing better and on top of the group that has been hit the hardest by this depression are the poor or people boarder line.

    Damn those pesky little facts and logic getting in the way of GOP lies and bs.
     
  4. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    I'm sorry ... but within the past month or so adults getting food stamps has doubled?

    Is that what the OP is trying to have us believe?
     
  5. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    yep tends to be the Conservative way. Lie and put out 1% truths and confuse the rest of us.
     
  6. Andeavor macrumors 6502

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    If the Reps wouldn't keep standing in the way of the Dems trying to stop useless wars and pouring the money into the national economy to help create jobs there wouldn't be the need for food stamps.

    It's not 1945 anymore.
     
  7. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    Obama killed Osama remember? Sounds like he wants to own the war.

    Pouring money into the economy usually just means giving the top campaign contributors a little kickback. Every time the government "stimulates" the economy its a windfall for wall street.
     
  8. Andeavor macrumors 6502

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    Obama did in 3 years what Bush was unable to do for 7 years (and he wasn't the one who sent the military to unrelated Iraq in the first place), he'd also started to reduce military presence in the middle east and with his healthcare reform and stimulus package he was aiming to help people get back the life that's been slipping away with the last administration's failure to look after them. Were they perfect? No, but they were what he could do (with much resistance from the Reps) after he promised them hope.

    What were the Republicans doing in the meantime? Looking for Obama's birth certificate! :facepalm:
     
  9. zioxide macrumors 603

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    Fixed that for you.


    This douchebag Eric Cantor should shut the **** up. If him and his dip **** party members didn't vote against every single bill that would create more jobs for Americans, we wouldn't have more and more people needing welfare and food stamps.


    Only the Republican party could block every possible measure the Democrats introduce to help fix a problem and then blame the Democrats for not fixing the problem.

    These people don't even realize how unbelievably stupid and ignorant they are.
     
  10. Ugg macrumors 68000

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    Why do you object to people having enough to eat? Do you feel that the unemployed and poor should simply slowly starve to death? Is it somehow morally reprehensible that the USA should feed its own people?

    I fail to understand your FAUX News outrage.
     
  11. zioxide macrumors 603

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    They don't want their tax dollars to go to feeding these people, but they're okay with their tax dollars picking up the billions of dollars in healthcare costs from the people who are uninsured yet still seek treatment.

    Go figure.
     
  12. leekohler macrumors G5

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    And also quite OK with our tax dollars being spent kill hundreds of thousands overseas for...what again?
     
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  14. gibbz macrumors 68030

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    I don't doubt that the number of welfare recipients has increased. A recession will do that to people. However, the particular claim you are passing as fact is simply wrong.

    The President didn't petition states for ideas about improving their compliance with federal regulations until 2011. Republican-led states asked for waivers to define new (and meaningful to their respective states) measures of success. The final plan was announced this year in July.

    The "article" you posted blames the increase in welfare from 2008 to 2010 on President Obama's waiver program. He further notes that the CSR data isn't available for 2011 or 2012. The dates don't match up with the claim. Never mind the recession didn't end until June 2009.

    Don't believe me on dates? Read FactCheck.
     
  15. gibbz macrumors 68030

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    UPDATE: I conflated the OP's posted waiver with the recent waiver flap. This is in regard to the ABAWD waiver. Regardless, the claim is still onerous.

    From that memorandum (which Eric Cantor should have read more carefully):
    Read: Total SNAP participation increased, as did the percentage of those on ABAWD, but we CAN NOT determine if the increase is attributed to the waiver program alone.

    A USDA report shows some interesting statistics and includes the following:
    The ACT waived the 3 month limit for able-bodied workers. They did so because the recession was hurting people, some places more than others. The recession was limiting opportunities, reducing hours, and reducing pay for people. The waiver was limited to April 2009 - Sept 2010 in order to allow people in these hard-hit areas to receive aid if needed.

    As the memorandum shows, there is no data to back up the number of people on ABAWD as a result of that waiver. So the claim that Obama doubled adults on food stamps isn't accurate. There simply isn't enough data to back that up. What's likely is that as the recession was in place, the total number of SNAP participants increased - and as jobs were hit, working adults were affected disproportionately.
     
  16. samiwas macrumors 68000

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    freedom!11!11!!
     
  17. leekohler macrumors G5

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    Hmm...I thought it was the promotion of theocracy. ;)

    That's what we ended up with, anyway.
     
  18. zioxide macrumors 603

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    George Bush wasn't allowed to play with trucks in a sandbox as a kid, so he had to do it while he was President.
     
  19. leekohler macrumors G5

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    Except these trucks had big guns on them.
     
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    #dead:D, and Cheney couldn't play with leggos as a kid, Halliburton rebuilding Iraq:D
     
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    Much easier to live in the past when Democrats have been in charge for 4 years.
     
  22. Vanilla Ice macrumors 6502

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    Yeah, EBT is the answer!

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    Hash tag #EBT on twitter. Read all the good its doing for the lazy.
     
  23. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    Er, how do you know this woman is getting food stamps?

    And if she is what's exactly the problem?
     
  24. Vanilla Ice macrumors 6502

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    Come to Palmdale Ca. I'll show you TONS of people abusing the system and making welfare/ebt a career. What's really annoying is getting stuck behind them in line while they unload 2 carts full, and I mean full of groceries. Then going into the parking lot watching them unload their groceries into a $60,000 car. You have no clue how pathetic those people are and our government is doing nothing about it. Just keeps loading up their ebt cards every month.
     
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    Although this is an obvious fabrication for the purposes of ideology, imagine how pathetically voyeuristic an individual must be to show so much interest in other people's groceries and them loading it into their car.
     

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