Obama does not do Hillary any favors. His endorsement is the kiss of death.

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  1. FieldingMellish Suspended

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    Obama does not do Hillary any favors. His endorsement is the kiss of death.

    Hillary Clinton Gets the Kiss of Death from Obama and Sanders


    Obama and Sanders put an end to any chance of Hillary becoming President after both endorsed her as the Dems Candidate for November.
    Obama, possibly the most ineffective President in US History and Self Proclaimed Socialist Bernie Sanders are not endorsements anyone would want, it is a going to be an uphill struggle for Hillary.


    http://www.livetradingnews.com/hillary-clinton-gets-kiss-death-obama-sanders-6458.html#.V1njFvT3aJI
     
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    His approval rating is at 52% and climbing. He's as popular as Reagan was at this point in his presidency. Keep on fantasizing. :D
     
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    hahaha.

    Obama's approval rating has been going up consistently. He's over 50% now. Almost 20% higher than George W. was when he left office.
     
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    When did Sanders drop out and endorse her? Last I saw he was hanging on despite Clinton getting all the delegates needed.
     
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    I could really use some of the stuff you're smoking or sniffing.
     
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    Is it a full moon everywhere right now? I've seen more crazy threads in the past few days than I can remember...
     
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    You'll have to excuse the resident fiction writer around here. He gets a little ahead of himself sometimes. :D
    --- Post Merged, Jun 9, 2016 ---
    Just the far right and far left coming unglued, that's all. :D
     
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    WOW! if THE ONE AND ONLY Shayne Heffernan, CEO of HEFFX, one of Asia's leading financial services companies, says so on an HEFFX-owned vanity website this is a real Game Change!!
     
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    Obama Has Decimated His Own Party Unlike Any Other Modern President

    913 lost legislature seats. 11 lost governorships.

    2015:

    Last week concluded the final election of President Obama’s tenure that didn’t involve replacing him. After seven years in office and as many elections, the Democratic Party has taken a beating worse than the Republican Party took under George W. Bush.
    On nearly every level of government, Democrats have lost more seats under Mr. Obama than under any other two-term modern president dating back to Dwight Eisenhower. (This includes the dual presidencies of John F. Kennedy/Lyndon B. Johnson and Richard Nixon/Gerald Ford.)

    http://observer.com/2015/11/obama-has-decimated-his-own-party-unlike-any-other-modern-president/
     
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    And what do Republicans have to show for all those seat gains?

    NOTHING!!!!!

    Most useless political party ever.
     
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    5682 tries to repeal the ACA ;)
     
  13. FieldingMellish thread starter Suspended

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    Yep, Obamacare Costs a Fortune

    "Whenever I write about Obamacare's expansion of health insurance, most of the e-mails I get from readers include some version of: Sure, the premiums may be low, but who can afford to see a doctor?

    A survey released today by the Kaiser Family Foundation, tracking 2015 deductibles and copayments across most exchange plans, says those complaints are at least half right. For all but the most generous Obamacare plans, out-of-pocket payments are usually higher than for employer-based insurance -- in some cases, drastically so."

    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2015-02-11/yep-obamacare-costs-a-fortune
     
  14. bradl macrumors 68040

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    You really don't want me to post the story of my wife again, do you?

    A story and post, BTW, you have yet to respond to, because like another question I asked of you, you can't, because you don't have an answer, except to keep spewing a lie so much that you believe people will take as the truth, though the only person believing it, is you.

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    Spot on! Or post the stories of my own vision and health. Obamacare has really helped a lot of people. Is it perfect? No. Is it better than what we had before (nothing) yes. Definitely.

    I wonder if right wingers ever get tired of complaining about things. That's all they do.
     
  16. FieldingMellish, Jun 9, 2016
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    There was a link from Bloomberg, where the information was obtained. You know, Bloomberg the Righty site? ;)


    Another:



    Hawking the Affordable Care Act (ACA) six years ago, President Barack Obama said, “Every single good idea to bend the cost curve and start actually reducing health care costs [is] in this bill.”
    Team Obama projected that their version of health care reform—replete with the bells and whistles of “investments” in health information technology, health care delivery and payment reforms—would translate into big cost reductions for individuals, families and businesses. In his iconic health care “talking points”, the president said that the “typical” family would see a yearly $2500 savings in their health costs.
    Has Obamacare Reduced Costs?
    Those family cost savings, of course, have not materialized.

    http://dailysignal.com/2016/03/22/o...wer-health-care-costs-what-actually-happened/
     
  17. bradl macrumors 68040

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    In for a sheep.

    My wife had a diaphragmatic hernia when she was born. While they were able to fix that, normal procedure when children are born is to sterilize their eyes, normally with something like silver nitrate. The doctor in this case ordered a cautery stick of stiller nitrate to be applied to my wife's eyes. The student under him questioned it, which she was abruptly told to not question him. She applied the stick to her eyes, which fried her cornea and retina in one eye, and severely damaged the optic nerve from that eye leading back to her brain. glaucoma set in on the other eye, leaving my wife nearly totally blind.

    Long story short, malpractice suit follows, followed by 7 cornea transplants, which one barely took, leaving her with very little eyesight at all in the eye that didn't have glaucoma. Because of that, no insurance company would insure her, because this was a major pre-existing condition that they didn't want to touch. If married, either my premiums would skyrocket, or I would be dropped from my plan if I did not exclude her from my policy.

    Do you know how saddening it is to have healthcare insurance for your childcare, but not able to support your wife?

    Well, that happened. 3 months after our daughter was born, the eye that had the glaucoma basically imploded. the cornea ripped down the middle, and the retina detached from the eye. That left her with two choices: anocular evisceration, which schools out the entire contents of the eye, but leaving the eyeball connected to the muscles in the socket, or an ocular enucleation, which is nearly the same as the evisceration, except they detach the eye totally from the socket and optic nerve, perform the evisceration, then reattach the eye back to the muscles in the socket and optic nerve. The slightest problem could lead to total blindness or worse.

    Yet, all of this country's healthcare providers would say "sorry, we feel for you, but because this is a pre-existing condition, our profits and shareholders mean more to us than your health and well-being." Yet none of them would ever think about if they lost their sight and worry about if they will ever be able to see their children.

    We opted for the Evisceration. For those who think UHC is a joke and that we need to treat our wealthy better? They can afford to have this procedure. (WARNING: contains very graphic photos.)

    If this were a country that had UHC, this wouldn't be a problem, because they know that without the people, there is no country. Not the USA, though; some political figures go out of their way to ensure that corporations have bigger sway. So because of that, we had to go through this, to the tune of nearly $200,000. All of this was before the ACA was signed, let alone part of it implemented.

    Got to love how we take care of our own, especially when this wasn't any fault of my wife.

    On a side note, because of this happening to my wife, her condition became required reading and study material for anyone going into ophthalmology (my wife is the only person with this condition). So when she had the evisceration, the doctors working on her didn't realize until shortly after the procedure was done that they were practicing on the very subject in their required material.

    So please spare me the crap about "it's too expensive/costs too much/subsidies/Socialism" and other typical conservative blather on this. It's funny that people with that stance don't seem to care or give a damn about it until something happens to them, and then they need it.


    My wife is alive. A hell of a lot of 'family cost savings' than the additional costs for having a funeral, let alone the physical, mental, and psychological cost of me having to live my life as a widower, and having our children go through the counseling throughout their lives as they live without their mother.

    I'll tell you this. I ask of you.... no.. I bloody well DARE you to look at just one picture of an ocular evisceration, and tell us that "it costs too much" when you or your family member's life is on the line.

    How funny that you only equate the ACA with money; a dead, lifeless object. But again, not totally unexpected from you.

    BL.
     
  18. FieldingMellish thread starter Suspended

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    Will you stop with the wife story already? Because you had a positive experience, then that means tens of millions are as well ? Get real.
     
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    I am real. My wife and children are real. You simply can't get over the fact that people have benefited from the ACA while all you have is whinging and moaning about how much it costs.

    Perhaps you should take your own advice and instead of talking about something imaginary, look at the people you have in front of your eyes who could be otherwise dead.

    But I digress; I'll stop with my wife's story and her blindness, just like we'll drop her from the ACA, if you give her your eyes, so you can experience just even 2 minutes of what her life has been like for the past 30something years.

    BTW: That was the offer I proposed to you last time you brought up the ACA; you still have yet to give a response.

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  20. FieldingMellish thread starter Suspended

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    Bully for you.

    As for others:

    NPR AND HARVARD SAY: OBAMACARE IS A COMPLETE FAILURE

    National Public Radio collaborated with Harvard’s T.H. Chan School of Public Health and the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation to survey Americans’ recent experience with health care. As to the Affordable Care Act, the survey’s findings are damning. They suggest that Obamacare has been worse than a complete waste of money.
    This is the survey’s only question directly on Obamacare. Most respondents say that Obamacare hasn’t affected them; where it has affected them, most say the law’s impact has been harmful:

    The promises that President Obama made about the ACA–cheaper premiums! lower co-pays and deductibles! better coverage!–have completely failed to materialize. This isn’t a surprise, of course, but it is nice to see it so

    Remember how we were all supposed to save $2,500 a year in health insurance premiums? Only 4% say they have saved anything, and those respondents are probably wrong. For the vast majority, Obamacare has either done nothing, or has increased the cost of health care, counting premiums, deductibles and co-pays.

    The federal government has had its share of failures over the years, but it is hard to think of a federal program that has proved such a comprehensive disaster, in such a short period of time, as the Affordable Care Act. Which, by the way, still hasn’t been fully implemented, as the Democrats have postponed some of its more baleful effects until 2017. So the number of people who are hurt by Obamacare, e.g.by losing the employer-based coverage with which they were content, is destined to rise.


    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/03/npr-says-obamacare-is-a-complete-failure.php
     
  21. bradl macrumors 68040

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    I can go home and see and enjoy my time with my wife. That is more success than you can ever imagine, for all you have is words. I have her and our children.

    You still have yet to provide an answer to my offer.

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    Sure it's the kiss of death from a staunch conservative agenda perspective, trying to pull the wool over our citizens' eyes. Fortunately (political) conservatism is on an extinction track. This is one species we don't want to save other than as an exhibit in a museum. ;)

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    ...no offense to Dodo lovers. ;)
     
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    By the way FM, just to shake up our viewing audience, I happen to agree with you concerning the ACA. I think it's a poorly conceived and ill advised piece of cobbled together legislation that, while helping some, has hurt many more.

    This doesn't mean I think Trump is any less dangerous, or agree with virtually any of your other strange and fantastical other posts.

    I try to play fair if at all possible.
     
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    And one hour after Obama endorsed Hillary, his Press Secretary said re: FBI investigating Hillary:

    Answering Question On FBI’s Email Probe, White House Calls Investigation “Criminal”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-glee-Republicans-day-Obama-endorses-her.html

    That's why the president, when discussing this issue in each stage, has reiterated his commitment to this principle that any criminal investigation should be conducted independent of any sort of political interference.



     
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    I'm anxiously awaiting your answer to the question posed by @mudslag in the "... first female candidate..." thread.

    Of course, I don't really expect an answer, but it's fun to pretend you might have grown a set.
     

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