"Obama doesn't love America"


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This is a perfect example of why I absolutely detest politics. We waste so much time in this country with petty bickering over politicans calling each other names, indignantly overreacting to namecalling, demanding canned "apologies" that everybody knows are canned, and generally wasting our brain cells on insignificant partisan nonsense that we are incapable of discussing any issues that are actually important, even if we left ourselves time to do so.

It was a dumb thing to say. It's a dumb thing to be angry about someone saying. It's utterly unimportant next to actual problems such as foreign policy decisions, immigration policies, etc., yet it monopolizes air time on the news and on front pages. Worse, it's not just this one episode. It happens constantly, at every level of politics.
 

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Everyone dust off your flag pin and other meaningless trinkets of nationalism.
 

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Now if Rudy phrased his distain for the president not loving America by his use of spying on it's citizens then yes he would have a case.
 

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Loves it enough to spy on its citizens w/o due process
Loves it enough to keep it at war
Loved it enough to pass the NDAA and justifying prolonged detention


Funny way of loving America
 

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Loves it enough to spy on its citizens w/o due process
Loves it enough to keep it at war
Loved it enough to pass the NDAA and justifying prolonged detention


Funny way of loving America
Rudy agrees with him on all of that stuff tho. It's just the being a muslim that he doesn't like.
 

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This is a perfect example of why I absolutely detest politics. We waste so much time in this country with petty bickering over politicans calling each other names, indignantly overreacting to namecalling, demanding canned "apologies" that everybody knows are canned, and generally wasting our brain cells on insignificant partisan nonsense that we are incapable of discussing any issues that are actually important, even if we left ourselves time to do so.

It was a dumb thing to say. It's a dumb thing to be angry about someone saying. It's utterly unimportant next to actual problems such as foreign policy decisions, immigration policies, etc., yet it monopolizes air time on the news and on front pages. Worse, it's not just this one episode. It happens constantly, at every level of politics.
It's pretty much why America has stalled and become ineffective at pretty much anything. Everyone expends so much energy elevating every minute disagreement into front page news and breaking-news round-the-clock coverage that they push real issues into invisibility. They get their base all riled up about gun rights and gay marriage and washing hands when working in food service, that people don't pay attention to the fact that our infrastructure is falling apart and looks like garbage or that 40% of our working people make less than minimum wage 45 years ago.

I don't know what the next 20 years will bring, but I predict a complete implosion of the America as we knew it.
 

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Ghouliani had left the Big Apple and moved to Nutter Town.

However, Obama is a politically-correct incompetent Milquetoast and even they can love their country.
 

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By now we should all know what Rudy said. ... What do you think? Is it true? Does it matter? Why such a virulent reaction?
I almost started a thread on this subject, until I came to the conclusion that Guliani is a political has-been, whose opinion doesn't amount to much any more.
 

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Loves it enough to spy on its citizens w/o due process
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Funny way of loving America
Nitpicking can make any President look good or bad. The Reps have their heads way further up corporate America's ass than the Dems do. I surely do not want a Rep as president anytime soon.
 

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Nitpicking can make any President look good or bad. The Reps have their heads way further up corporate America's ass than the Dems do. I surely do not want a Rep as president anytime soon.
I do, it's the only way the democrats & uber liberals complain about war or what gets done to the constitution
 

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oh look a GOP making a fool out of themselves again. Yet another example of the issues with politics and why no one can work together.
Any one claiming the GOP is willing to worth with the other side is a liar as they keep making comments like this that is nothing more than to get people angry. Really the GOP should come out at shoot down Rudy.
 

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oh look a GOP making a fool out of themselves again. Yet another example of the issues with politics and why no one can work together.
Any one claiming the GOP is willing to worth with the other side is a liar as they keep making comments like this that is nothing more than to get people angry. Really the GOP should come out at shoot down Rudy.

To be fair this really is all Giuliani with a few stragglers agreeing with him, Bobby Jindal being one of them. Most on the GOP side are distancing themselves from Giuliani. While most might hate Obama, they know that comments like this don't bold well with the public, as it's seen as disrespectful to the office of the POTUS. Giuliani is trying to make himself relevant for 2016 in some capacity. It's a childish political stunt.
 

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To be fair this really is all Giuliani with a few stragglers agreeing with him, Bobby Jindal being one of them. Most on the GOP side are distancing themselves from Giuliani. While most might hate Obama, they know that comments like this don't bold well with the public, as it's seen as disrespectful to the office of the POTUS. Giuliani is trying to make himself relevant for 2016 in some capacity. It's a childish political stunt.
Have you watched Fox News lately? They have been pushing this nonsense forever and trying to con the American people into believing that they represent "Real" Americans and anyone who doesn't embrace their ideology doesn't love America. Look at the names of their shows, America's Newsroom and America's HeadQuarters. Giuliani was only spewing what they preach over at Fox News on a daily basis. The only difference was he directed his comments at the president.
 

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Didn't team Obama portray Romney as being disdainful of 47% of the population in the 2012 election? No less offensive IMO.
 

mudslag

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Didn't team Obama portray Romney as being disdainful of 47% of the population in the 2012 election? No less offensive IMO.

They also used Romney's own words in that regard, far different then someone stating their pure opinion.
 

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Didn't team Obama portray Romney as being disdainful of 47% of the population in the 2012 election? No less offensive IMO.
You didn't mention what you thought of Romney's original statement.

How offensive was that?
 

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I saw a compilation on youtube of Obama repeatedly saying he loves America and all that, yet Giuliani says he's never heard him say it...

What an idiot.

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Didn't team Obama portray Romney as being disdainful of 47% of the population in the 2012 election? No less offensive IMO.
No, Romney did.
 

mudslag

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Have you watched Fox News lately? They have been pushing this nonsense forever and trying to con the American people into believing that they represent "Real" Americans and anyone who doesn't embrace their ideology doesn't love America. Look at the names of their shows, America's Newsroom and America's HeadQuarters. Giuliani was only spewing what they preach over at Fox News on a daily basis. The only difference was he directed his comments at the president.

There is a valid argument in that but this is still about a politician coming out right and saying it. While Fox news pushes the same rhetoric, it's usually done through standard opinion heads which arnt seen as controversial. And yes this includes all news channels.
 

mgguy

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You didn't mention what you thought of Romney's original statement.

How offensive was that?
I believe his comments were largely factual, but apparently many people were offended by them. Obama certainly did a good job getting voters to question romney's basic character and integrity.
 

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I believe his comments were largely factual, but apparently many people were offended by them. Obama certainly did a good job getting voters to question romney's basic character and integrity.
You do realize the 47% consist mostly of the elderly and blue collar workers, right?

I mean, vast swathes of my home state of Ohio is part of the 47%, and they work 40 hours a week to live hand to mouth.