Obama is back... in Berlin

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  1. jpietrzak8 macrumors 65816

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    Good to see that Obama still has the touch. :) He's attended a discussion on globalism and openness in Berlin along with Angela Merkel, who strangely enough will be dining with Donald Trump tonight.

    Among the quotes from him is a warning against leaders who never question themselves, which is just too good not to pass along:

    "If I become so convinced that ‘I’m always right,’” Obama said, “the logical conclusion of that often ends up being great cruelty and great violence.”​

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/25/obama-in-berlin-angela-merkel-238806

    Hmm, let me think. Who is a leader who never admits any mistake, ever?
     
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    While he's back to making speeches and addressing mistakes I hope he addresses the long slow economic death for a lot Americans his administration contributed to.
     
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    As opposed to the very very rapid economic death for a lot of Americans his predecessor's administration contributed to?
     
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    I’m not putting the blame entirely on Obama or even a specific political party. This has been going on for decades by both parties. Things are just coming to a breaking point and income inequality should be at the forefront but establishment politicians don’t want to address it directly. Income inequality and rampant outsourcing are probably the main reasons Trump is in office.
     
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    hope they keep him over there
     
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    Merkel needs to win votes. It's all about being able to avoid a "great coalition" that we have today.
    Regardless of the rise of the AfD, Merkel needs to compaign pro EU and pro immigration.
    Obama was very well received in germany, Merkel needs him as an ally to distract people from pressing issues.

    Problably all western countries share the following issues no one wants to address in a serious manner.
    Health care
    Retirement entitlements
    Welfare for immigrants and single mothers.
    Tax reform.
    Support for people with low paying jobs abd / or no retirement funds.
     
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    One of my favorite news headlines about Trump and Merkel was “Leader of the Free World Meets Trump”
     
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    Markel is invading her own country with foreigners. She needs to go away.
     
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    We need to stop bombing foreigners into other countries. Stop the problem at the source, us.
     
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    exactly, best way not to have a refugee crisis is to not create it by propping up dictators and arming rebels while bombing sovereign nations .
     
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    I think our bombing has contributed to the issue, but certainly hasn't caused it.
     
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    I’d say our 20 years of bombing the middle east is the top inspiration for Islamic lunatics, but both sides will continue to chicken or the egg it until we bankrupt ourselves. Poor people have nothing to lose.
     
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    Islamists have been doing this crap long before the bombs were even a thing. We established our marine corps to fight Muslim pirates in the 18th century.
     
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    “In this new world that we live in we can’t isolate ourselves,” Obama said. “We can’t hide behind a wall.”
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    LOL What?
     
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    Didn't he just add like 3 feet to the wall around his house in Chicago?
     
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    More than you and I will make in our lifetimes combined.
     
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    DC
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    Gotcha. I thought that was the one in Chicago.
     
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    Hell it's probably is that one too.
     
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    Holy-conflation-of-two-entirely-different-things-Batman!

    Pirates? Your going to point to pirating in the 18th century as an example of "this crap" when the topic "this crap" refers to is terrorism? You're really going draw those two topics together via Islam?

    What is wrong with you? Honestly?
     
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    Piracy is a form of terrorism. And it demonstrates a long history violence and assault. We can go back further if you like. The invasion of Egypt, the burning of the library at Alexandria, the invasion of Spain, Iran, the crusades, the invasion of African countries. How far back do you want to go?

    And the two topics are related via Islam.
     

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