Obama lays plans to kill expectations after election victory.

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  1. QuantumLo0p macrumors 6502a

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    Trouble in Utopia? Could it be that BamaBiden has not been totally honest with America?! Say it isn't so!

    Friday, 2008-31-305
    By Tim Reid, The Times of London

    Barack Obama's senior advisers have drawn up plans to lower expectations for his presidency if he wins next week's election, amid concerns that many of his euphoric supporters are harboring unrealistic hopes of what he can achieve.

    The sudden financial crisis and the prospect of a deep and painful recession have increased the urgency inside the Obama team to bring people down to earth, after a campaign in which his soaring rhetoric and promises of "hope" and "change" are now confronted with the reality of a stricken economy.

    One senior adviser told The Times that the first few weeks of the transition, immediately after the election, were critical, "so there's not a vast mood swing from exhilaration and euphoria to despair."

    Read the entire article at
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article5051118.ece
     
  2. chrmjenkins macrumors 603

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    Well, there's a whole two months after the election before anyone takes office. I would consider that a cooling down period. Then Obama doesn't have to stump for the job, just the things he plans to do. It should become more pragmatic speech then, and that should ramp people down into "get things done" rather than "he will save the world!"
     
  3. rdowns macrumors Penryn

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    I don't think the American people are under any illusions, regardless of which side you support, that we are in for some very tough times that will take years to recover from.
     
  4. Anuba macrumors 68040

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    Well DUHH. Of course he has to lower expectations, to stifle all the political ignorami who expect him to fix everything in two weeks. Cleaning up this mess will take several years -- recovery from the Great Depression took over 10 years -- and with a little luck, things will start to turn around near the end of the 2008-2012 term. If Obama takes over as captain of the Titanic, he will have to work hard just to steer clear of the iceberg. It ain't gonna be a luxury cruise for a loooooooong time. But it's a lot better than McCain/Palin, who would run straight into the iceberg full steam.
     
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    One could say, that at least the Obama campaign is being realistic.
     
  6. 3rdpath macrumors 68000

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    i don't have the unrealistic expectation that obama can fix 8 years of epic failure within the 1st 100 days of office...or even the first year. it's a huge mess he's inheriting.

    what i do believe is he'll bring a level of intelligence and responsibility to the office that has been sorely lacking.

    i see an end to the days of sociopathic above-the-law government. that's enough for me.
     
  7. IJ Reilly macrumors P6

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    I expect what we will hear from Obama after he takes office is a frank appraisal of the difficultly of the challenges we face and the need for all Americans to do their share in overcoming them. The last part at least is something we never heard from George Bush, unless doing your share meant going shopping.
     
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    I think you summed it up pretty well.

    At least there will now be HOPE.
    and thats a good start.
     
  9. Ntombi macrumors 68030

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    QFT.

    The only people with unrealistically high expectations are those who haven't been paying attention.
     
  10. hulugu macrumors 68000

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    I think you're right. The most difficult thing will be giving such a frank appraisal without partisan hacks immediately railing about deception on Obama's part because he can't wave a magic wand.
     
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    Ziggy says Sam doesn't get to jump until he wins the election.
     
  12. IJ Reilly macrumors P6

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    We will hear it. Not only will the opposition not take a holiday, big obstacles are likely to be created by Obama's own party in Congress. Expectations are going to be high, probably unrealistically high, but I don't think Obama has ever promoted the idea that progress is going to be fast or easy. One big difference that I do expect (and will be disappointed if it doesn't happen) is that Obama will try to marshal the backing of the American people throughout the process -- again in contrast to George Bush, who assumed a victory however narrow gave him a "mandate" to do whatever he wanted.
     
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    The punch… and beaten to it! I am shamed.
     
  15. leekohler macrumors G5

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    My only expectation is that he won't be Bush. That's good enough for me.
     
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    Since the OP hasn't chimed in since he/she started the discussion I can only see this as another Republican "bait and run" tactic.
     
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    From the article:

    A big part of this is going to be the make-up of Congress, i.e. did the Dems get to 60 Senators... Change will come a lot faster if it's like that Nextel commercial with the Firemen running things. Aye!

    I do think he'll attempt to tackle a major problem very quickly to follow up on his promises. Maybe he'll set a timeline for withdraw in Iraq, or close Guatanamo. The expectations for quick action will be felt and I'm sure he'll try to deliver somewhere.
     
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    Yeah, 'cuz Obama's the only politician who's ever engaged in the "lowered expectations" game.

    What a pathetic line of attack. :rolleyes:
     
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    Lest we forget, in the two years since the Democrats gained control of Congress, they've faced the veto pen of the president. Before that, they were cut out of legislation entirely. The Democratic members are going to have an unrequited goodie list a mile long. It will be tough for Obama to navigate these waters without signing off on virtually everything.
     
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    Of course, this ignores the fact that McCain's supporters, which, even if Obama wins, are a significant portion of the populace (close to 50% most likely) will not be experiencing anything close to euphoria about his election, and will in fact be expecting the worst. Perhaps we will breathe a sigh of relief if this article is correct and we realize the "terrible trio" (Obama, Pelosi, Reid) aren't going to move this country too far towards' France's economic positions.
     
  21. Blue Velvet Moderator emeritus

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    Projections for McCain are currently about 46% of the voting population, about 60 million out of a turnout of 130 million (122 million in 2004). Which is only 20% of the population of the USA.

    What is this constant obsession with France? Coming from a country that's just spent $700billion bailing out Wall Street, has an unemployment rate of about 6% and is currently in recession... Criticism of France with its GDP growth of 1.9%, inflation at 1.8%, excellent infrastructure, world-class healthcare, higher levels of education and life expectancy than the US... I'm not sure this is a fruitful comparison for Americans to make.
     
  22. Lord Blackadder macrumors G5

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    It's the shoulder-shrugging and frog-eating. And the socialism. :rolleyes:

    The other day McCain warned that "Socialist" Obama would turn us towards socialism like Sweden (who, last time I checked, was an ally). What the heck did Sweden ever do to become an anti-example?
     
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    Freedom fries. Kerry looks French.

    I would have thought that Americans would have understood the close historical ties between France and America. The Statue of Liberty wasn't paid for and built by Americans... and they were an ally in the American Revolutionary War.
     
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    They were our first ally in our national history, and their naval power decided the conflict. We may have won our independence anyway, but France played a big role in our birth as a nation.

    I sometimes think that the French and Americans bicker because we are so alike in many ways; strong national pride, a democratic born out of revolution against imperialist monarchy...the language of our constitutions come from the same sources. We are unwilling to admit we are attacking our own reflections.
     
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    They speak French. Isn't than enough reason?
     

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