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Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by greygray, Feb 20, 2010.
Yeah, but did he bow when he met him?
President Obama seems to bow to anything and everything.
Good point, I think this is the most important issue here. If he did bow then what is the world coming to?
Does the Tea Party movement feel sympathetic to the Tibetans?
Are the Tibetans straight males, white, protestant and earning $250,000 a year?
If they were then of course the Tea Party would be.
I would call it a cult, not a movement.
Good point. But I was thinking that they might relate to the government oppression and admire the Dali Lama as a separatist.
Yeah, but movement makes me think of bowel movement.
Do they even know where Tibet is?
more importantly can their leader sarah palin see it from her office.
It's his mom's fault. When Obama was little, she used to make him stand on the edge of a glass of water.
Maybe, but they've probably confused the Dalai Lama with Dolly Parton's pet llama.
She doesn't have a pet llama, she is a llama!
I hope the original poster didn't actually want to talk about this topic. We wouldn't really want to talk about damaging relations with our second largest trading partner anyways, would we?
Well I wouldn't mind hurting relations temporarily with a country that censors protest and kills its citizens without reason.
Well just about every US president meets with the Dalai Lama at some point so the Chinese should be used to it by now. If you want to talk about the US selling arms to Taiwan, it may be off-topic.
I would not have posted this thread if it was so. It's no use hiding the issue of damaging trading ties between China and us. Beijing has never been cooperative all along, especially with Iran's nuclear talks. It's been all talk but no show.
I was more referring to our posters in this thread who would rather make fun of the tea party which has nothing to do with this issue at all.
Tibet is a complex issue. To sum it up briefly: China had at least de-facto control of Tibet during the Qing dynasty, then gradually lost control while their empire disintegrated. They only completely lost Tibet with the fall of the Qing dynasty in 1912, then after the communists took power they re-captured Tibet in 1949 (source).
In 1949 Tibet was a medieval serfdom and since then the Chinese have poured resources into Tibet to develop and modernise Tibet (which is something the 4 million Tibetans would have almost certainly been unable to do otherwise). Unfortunately at the same time Han Chinese have moved to Tibet from the rest of China and there are strained ethnic tensions and possibly other issues with development which cause various problems, some of which get rather a lot of coverage in the western media.
Additionally given that there are Tibetan buddhist temples in central Beijing, it is pretty dubious to argue that the Chinese don't appreciate Tibetan culture.
The US owes them money and they are powerful so they don't have to be cooperative. Maybe they aren't as concerned about Iran having nuclear weapons as the West is.
Well I wouldn't say a word about her office, seems like she doesn't have one these days....
Why wouldn't they meet? It's not like the Dalai Lama is some nasty homophobic ex-Nazi in a dress like the guy Obama met last July
It actually does. But I suppose the bowing issue is more to your liking.
With ace limerick material like, "Obama meets Dalai Lama", I'm surprised nobody's had a go!
There once was a pres. named Obama
Who met an exiled Dalai Lama
He fled from Tibet
'cause China was upset
But got by, ever since, on good Karma
(Yeah, I know, I can hear he groans from here )
No groans here. I love it!
The article didn't even mention bowing.... I didn't see anything about tea parties either.