Obama not helping small businesses

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by Wotan31, Oct 29, 2009.

  1. Wotan31 macrumors 6502

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    Obama is doing nothing to help small businesses and they are failing in droves. Soon everyone will be working for big corporations or the govt, which really is the ultimate goal of the modern socialist. Makes keeping tabs on and controlling the populace much much easier.

    I would add that the Democratic Party seeks to constantly enlarge the number of people dependent on the government for something, now to include health care. People who rely on the gubmint for their livelihoods and services are easy to control and vote overwhelmingly for Democrats. It's the independent, self-sufficient, real Americans, the pioneers and entrepreneurs who built this country, that must be destroyed. Their way of life grants no power to the collectivist, statist, or socialist.

    But enough ranting. Obama made several campaign promises specifically around helping small businesses. He has yet to keep a single one of them.

    Are there any other small business owners here who are disgusted that Obama signed the so-called "Bail-out Bill", (Which BTW was chock full of earmarks, yes the same earmarks he promised not to include when he was campaigning) and failed to include even a single one of the small business benefits that he promised??

    So lets hear it, any other small business owners in the house?
     
  2. GoCubsGo macrumors Nehalem

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    I am not a SBO but I can say that I've been very interested to see how the Dem's puppet handles his promises. So far he is failing. SBO are paying more for insurance while getting nothing in return. If their business fails then there is no one around to pick them up. A SBO has no one else to rely on but themselves and Obama gives the appearance that he couldn't care less.

    I've also been watching and reading about local farms. The big corporations are getting subsidies and yet nothing for the small-time farmer. The farms I speak of won't feed the world but it will certainly feed some. These farms are cleaner and usually not the source of all the e-coli scares we've had. They breed their stock and grow their food properly and offer something so much better than big corporate farmers and yet, where's the money for them?
     
  3. Blue Velvet Moderator emeritus

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    The unsupported statement of opinion.

    The facts:



    Oh, and there's just this little matter in today's news:

    Economy grows at best pace for two years.
     
  4. yg17 macrumors G5

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    Oh, stop it, you're confusing the republicans with facts again.
     
  5. abijnk macrumors 68040

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    You must not be a "real American."
     
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    I thought I felt a little stimulation :D
     
  8. .Andy macrumors 68030

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    It's getting more bizarre by the day :confused:
     
  9. Blue Velvet Moderator emeritus

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    I'll give you that. I'm not even an unreal one... but I do like apple pie. :)


    This was last week's presidential address. But I guess it wasn't covered on Fox. ;)
     
  10. Wotan31 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Funny how your so-called "facts" include none of the items Obama promised during his campaign.

    Guess the old "bait and switch" passes as "facts" these days. I have no interest in how he plans to change banking regulations that will maybe somehow help some owners. I'm after him to keep his campaign promises. Read post #1 again, I was quite specific.

    Just a guess, but you are not an SBO if you're impressed by these news articles. No? Didn't think so.
     
  11. Blue Velvet Moderator emeritus

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    I didn't address his campaign promises, that's true. I was responding to your nonsensical and patently false assertion that he 'was doing nothing' to help small businesses, something you clearly plucked out of thin air. But since you asked...

    Here's the campaign promises:
    http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/SmallBusinessFINAL.pdf

    And Politifact considers this a promise kept:

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...36/expand-loan-programs-for-small-businesses/

    So, excuse me for pointing out, with evidence, that:

    ...is nothing but an uninformed lie.
     
  12. leekohler macrumors G5

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    And yet you've offered no evidence whatsoever to support your claims.
     
  13. Blue Velvet Moderator emeritus

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    In fact, there's more, some still under progress, some to be started. But I guess the guy's got a lot on his plate.
     
  14. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    I do web design for a local SBA, I was pretty sure I heard something about the loans being enlarged for small businesses. Credit is still a bit stagnant, small business isn't going to flourish in that environment Obama or no Obama.
     
  15. Counterfit macrumors G3

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    Every time I hear that phrase, I want to punch a Republican in the face.
     
  16. leekohler macrumors G5

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    Wotan- if you think that you are the only people who built the US, you are sadly mistaken. What about the workers, who actually did build everything?

    The fact is- we're all needed. All of us, for our various talents and skills. If we don't work together and take care of each other, society doesn't work. Your problem is that you think people are islands. That is the kind of thinking that gets you in trouble. Interdependence is unavoidable in any society.
     
  17. Shivetya macrumors 65816

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    Obama is concerned with Wall Street. Wall Street are where all the K Street people come from. They are the real money in campaigns. Look at Soros, he is a happy as a pig in mud now because who needs a tax cut when the government just hands you the working man's money directly?

    The only time main street mattered to Obama was during the election, he needs your vote. Now he doesn't need your vote so he doesn't need you.
     
  18. Thomas Veil macrumors 68020

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    I don't get a paper anymore, so thanks for the morning cartoon.
     
  19. leekohler macrumors G5

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    Umm...maybe you should read the links provided by BlueVelvet. Oh wait- you don't care about the truth, do you? :rolleyes:
     
  20. jb1280 macrumors 6502a

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    In my basic understanding of the economic ladder, the small business owners will usually be towards the bottom of the pecking order in any sort of economic recovery.

    Let's just play a little counter-factual on this point. What exactly, would the Republican Party due that would be significantly better for small business owners?

    It's impossible to say what the current group of Republicans in Washington would do if they had any power since at the moment they are a bunch of nihilists in opposition, but my inclination is they would do virtually nothing except maybe some new tax cuts.

    There would be no credit market, there would be no attempt at doing anything about healthcare, and there would be the belief that the market will correct itself as unemployment continues to go up.

    This is not to let anyone off the hook, but to give some context.
     
  21. abijnk macrumors 68040

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    Aside from the fact that others have pointed out your claim is false, do you realize he hasn't even been president for a year yet? How is he supposed to get everything done he promised in the first nine months of a four year term? :confused:

    The sources above show that there is some progress being made. I'm of the mind that patience is needed in these things, they can't all happen over night.
     
  22. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    Wait, so let me get this straight, your saying tax cuts can't solve all of humanities problems? I don't want to hear it.
    :p
     
  23. Rt&Dzine macrumors 6502a

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    That's why they say it. Your reaction is exactly what he wants.
     
  24. Sky Blue Guest

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    I stopped here and lol'd hard.
     
  25. Iscariot macrumors 68030

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    Obama came into my small business and punched me right in the mean bean machine :(
     

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