Obama to Ask Congress for Power to Merge Agencies

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  1. rdowns macrumors Penryn

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    Small savings relative to our financial problems but at least it's a start. Letr's see how Congress screws this up.


     
  2. soco macrumors 68030

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    I like this. At least they're being "gentle" about it.
     
  3. leekohler macrumors G5

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    How long til Republicans block this? 3...2...1...
     
  4. SwiftLives macrumors 65816

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    It's a socialist liberal marxist plot for the "president" to establish himself as a dictator because he knows he can't win the election. :D
     
  5. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    It is a trap for them. They stop him and they hand team design a great weapon to show that the GOP does not want to save money. If they approve it Obama gets the saying he saving money. In terms of choices I say allowing it is much better because they will not that as much damage in congress.

    Well that is how you try to do layoffs first is threw normal attention. It does not hurt morale as much if at all as in stead of people loosing there jobs you just have fewer new faces.
     
  6. SwiftLives macrumors 65816

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    Obama seems to be laying a lot of traps lately. Payroll tax cut. Wealth disparity. Now this. I'm very interested to see how this plays out.
     
  7. leekohler macrumors G5

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    The GOP will find a way to oppose it.
     
  8. mrkramer macrumors 603

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    If they do it's going to come back to hurt them, and it'll probably hurt them more to block it than to let it pass. If it goes through at least they can argue that Obama isn't doing enough to cut government, whereas if they don't give this to him then Obama can say that the Republicans aren't serious about cutting the size of government and fixing the deficit.
     
  9. Designer Dale macrumors 68040

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    Interesting tactic. I agree that it's a trap for the Conservatives, but they will find a way to spin it against him as a "power grab" rather than making government more efficient.

    Republicans will oppose this "unconstitutional ploy to grow the power of the President", making them look good to the Tea Party when the block it.

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  10. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    I would not be surprised by that ploy but the problem is that pisses off the real group that is key to winning and that is the independents. The GOP needs to figure out to say F off to the Tea partiers as they do not matter in getting elected. They will vote GOP no matter what. The GOP needs to start getting the independents.
     
  11. Peace macrumors Core

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    It's going to be hard to call this a power grab since the prez had this power for a long time up until Reagan.

    oops !! There's the republican loophole.
     
  12. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    I'm all for the plan to offer the President the fast track option to do the consolidations.

    As long as it actually results in cost savings. These things are notorious in the consulting world for promising cost savings over long periods of time, whereas whoever suggested them is frequently long gone before anyone realizes that none of the cost savings materialized.

    Also one problem with reducing workforce through attrition is that it has a tendency to grey the workforce. (ref) That's okay, in and of itself, but it does also have the potential for starving government of badly needed new blood.
     
  13. Designer Dale macrumors 68040

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    So Reagan shrank government (modern war cry) by ending the power of the President to do so?

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  14. Peace macrumors Core

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    Not at all. Re-read my post.

    I said presidents had the ability to shrink the size of government until Reagan took over.

    How do you understand that as my view that Reagan shrank the government ?
     
  15. guzhogi macrumors 68030

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    IMO, the US government can use quite a bit of consolidation. Something thatI've wondered about is how much overlap there is in the intelligence community? We have 16 branches in it according to Wikipedia. Do we really need that many? Just my 2¢
     
  16. Votekinky06 macrumors 6502

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    Why are we merging agencies instead of eliminating them?
     
  17. mrkramer macrumors 603

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    Because they a lot of them do similar but necessary work. By merging them you can eliminate duplication and government waste while keeping necessary services.
     
  18. hulugu macrumors 68000

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    The infographic from the White House is pretty clear at the complexity currently created by multiple agencies working on small businesses and exports:

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    So, to go from this to one agency would be helpful for small businesses.
     

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