Obama votes against Obama economic package.

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  1. stevegmu macrumors regular

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    http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/03/13/obama-votes-against-obama-economic-package/
     
  2. Dont Hurt Me macrumors 603

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    I thought those guys were investigating baseball or something really important. This is nothing more then politics and games meanwhile we have a president who got us into a needless war.....what are they doing about that? anything? Both partys are a discrace, both not representing America only special interests and playing games like this one. Proud to be Independent!
     
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    I withhold judgement until I read a real article on this subject.

    It's not that it comes from FNC as much as the fact the article is shorter than even my attention span.

    As an aside,as a non-frequent guest to the FNC website, I found the comments section pretty hilarious.
     
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    I couldn't find the article on World Socialist Daily, so here it is from the NY Times.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/14/washington/14spend.html?hp
     
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    Who estimated that these programmes would cost $1.4 trillion? What bill was being amended? Even presuming that Mr. Obama's programmes would cost $1.4 trillion, what was the funding source for the proposed amendment?

    Also, Mr. Obama would presumably propose to cut funding for other programmes in favor of his alleged $1.4 trillion worth of favored programmes.

    I can think of at least a dozen good reasons why Mr. Obama would vote against this amendment even if it did involve every policy that he proposes to institute if he becomes president.
     
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    Love the faux noise over-sensationalized headline.

    It should be "Obama votes against asshat republican". Don't these ****ing senators have more important things to do rather than doing this?
     
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    What a waste of time. Allard should be censured for time-wasting and playing games, when he should be trying to solve our problems. What do we pay these guys for?
     
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    I believe 111 of his proposed programs were added into the amendment. He considers those making over $32000/year to be rich , so their taxes would go up.
    http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.j...7283693&grpId=3659174697241980&nav=Groupspace

    What has B. Obama said he will cut? The military?

    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=25496
     
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    How many of the 111 proposed programs were modified versions of the same program to try to pass it via another means? How much would the cost be if we did the same thing for McCain's proposed ammendments?
     
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    Unfortunately, B. Obama has refused to answer those questions.
    Which of J. McCain's 'proposed amendments' are you referring to?
     
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    Well a quick search here gave me these:

    Yes there aren't as many as Obama but what would the dollar value be if they all passed? Would McCain vote against them if they were all tied to the same bill?
     
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    Those are all from 2007. None of which seem as if they would be very expensive.
     
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    How about staying in Iraq for a hundred years? Could that be considered an amendment? How much would that cost?
     
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    Will B. Obama be pulling troops out of Germany, S. Korea, Japan?

    http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/02/25/mccain-explains-100-years-in-iraq-comment/


    http://www.barackobama.com/issues/iraq/

    Maybe he hasn't heard, but Al-Qaeda has bases in Iraq.
     
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    Al Qaeda wasnt even in Iraq until George destroyed the country. Ironic indeed and after Bushco's actions Al Qaeda NOW is in IRAQ. Brilliant. 4,000 dead americans and a trillion dollars later just Brilliant and the master mind Bin Laden is still making tapes. Brilliant George,just Brilliant.
     
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    I prefer Al-Qaeda in Iraq, rather than here.
    Whatever collateral damage we caused, we have more than repaired. Reconstruction in Iraq reefers to their infrastructure, which was neglected since before the Persian Gulf War, and that which is being attacked by insurgents/terrorists.
    Less than half a $billion, actually.
    Should we put boots on the ground in Pakistan to get Bin Laden?
     
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    How do know they arent here? were having trains coming off of tracks,chemical plants blowing up all the time I wouldnt be surprised if this information is simply spun like everything else the feds do? Heck George didnt do a thing on borders even 5 years afterwards. Even now border control is a joke, if they wanted to be here they could just walk in. Also what is a insurgent? someone who thinks different then you? Stupid Labels from a stupid administration who made up this false war that we all will be paying for generations to come. Also how do you repair the thousands,hundred of thousands of Iraqi's killed? Get off the Kool Aid this administration has been serving. We were taken to war by a bunch of draft dodgers....Bush,Cheney,Libby,Hastert,Frist,Lott,Ashcroft,Delay and this list doesnt stop. These Morons who never served have bankrupt America.
     
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    Al Qaeda and other terror groups- freedom fighters to some, are more than willing to take responsibility for attacks. Can you provide some links where said groups have claimed responsibility for the daily chemical factory explosions in the US?

    I'm all for locking up the borders, but Latinos call that racist, so no politician will do anything in that regard.

    Dictionary.com should be your friend, if you are having difficulty with definitions.

    How much have you paid for the war? Have your taxes gone up? Have you received a bill? If the war costs $1 trillion over 10 years, that's not even 1% GDP. Where do you think the vast majority of the war money goes?

    It is a shame the Iraqis have chosen to kill each other, as well as devout Muslims from Iran, Saudi Arabia, Syria... There is no solution to their 7th century split.

    President Bush served. D. Cheney was above the draft age. Are you referring to President Clinton?
    http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/02/17/transcripts/clinton.iraq/

    How about A. Gore?

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002-09-23-gore-text_x.htm


    I take it this is a lie?
    Senator Joseph Lieberman
    http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110002391


    How about J. Kerry?

    Senator John Kerry (Democrat, Massachusetts)
    Speech at Georgetown University
    January 23, 2003
    http://kerry.senate.gov/
     
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    All I can say is if you think these draft dodgers including Bush who never finished his National Guard time are telling you the truth then you should sign up and go to Iraq. I could care a less what Lieberman,Kerry or Bushco says there wasnt any evidence Saddam was working with Bin Laden. None. There is no Evidence. WMDS werent there. Iraq never attacked us. America started this war over lies like Yellow Cake.
     
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    It's unfortunate that a Senator would engage in this obvious political stunt.

    Besides, McCain has said he would vote against his own immigration proposal, were it to come up for a vote today.
     
  24. stevegmu thread starter macrumors regular

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    If you could care less, then you do care.

    Was 9/11 the work of the Jews, or a secret agency within the US government?
     
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    Neither. It was the work of Saudi Arabian (our biggest ally in the middle east!) exiles who are based in the mountains between Afghanistan and Pakistan. It had nothing to do with Iraq.
     

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