Obama vs Reagan — how to handle terrorists.

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  1. FieldingMellish, Jun 17, 2016
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    Startling difference when you compare the former community organizer and Senator with the former actor and 2 term Governor of California.

    What’s it been? 8 attacks on American soil under Obama’s watch?

    As per Allen B. West website: “I realize a lot of the people reading these articles might not have been alive when Ronald Reagan was president. Even more reason for them to watch videos like this to see what real leadership looks like.”


     
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    Ronald Reagan was an awful president. Hobbled by a failing brain and using astrology to make decisions, he put us on the path that has brought us one Donald J. Trump. He also did a bang up job in Beirut.

    I don't get the right's fascination with this guy. Actually, I do since they've rewritten history about him so much. He would be called a RINO today.
     
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    Where modern Right-wing icons are concerned, he's pretty much all they've got. Pretty sad when you think about it.
     
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    Instead of expending more blood and treasure on endless war, Reagan eventually realized that the primary actors must solve their own issues and our presence only exacerbated the situation
     
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    The funniest part about the whole thing was his kid saying last week his dad would no longer be a Republican and would probably be a Democrat today because the Republicans are so bat **** nuts.
     
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    Yeah there is a BIG difference between the two. Reagan supported Osama Bin Laden and Obama killed him.
     
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    Obama said "yes" when asked by military should we strike, pursuant to waterboarded information gleaned from captured combatants under George W. Bush.

    "Waterboarding helped find bin Laden: CIA chief."

    "CIA director Leon Panetta has spoken for the first time about the operation that killed Osama bin Laden, confirming some of the intelligence leading up to it came from detainees who had been waterboarded."

    http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2011-05-04/waterboarding-helped-find-bin-laden-cia-chief/2703576
     
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    "Ends justify the means." - A Reagan supporter
     
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    Jimmy Carter initiated our support for Osama bin Laden.
     
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    I believe you meant to say assaulted.
     
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    Obama just drones them now.
     
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    He drones their wives and children, too. But it's ok when Obama drones their families.
     
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    Reagan gave arms to the Iranians, gave arms to nun-murdering terrorists in Central America, cut and ran when terrorists murdered U.S. troops in Beirut...

    ... and did nothing while a health epidemic terrorized millions on U.S. soil.
     
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    no different than an Obama supporter.
     
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    You're citing a guy who violated the law by selling arms to Iran.....
     
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    Reagan was a moron
     
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    This was completely disproven already:

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/03/31/senate-report-cia-torture/7140143/

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/31/senate-report-osama-bin-laden-torture

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/cia-debunks-its-own-claims-about-torture/5377108?print=1

    Any other outdated crap you'd like to peddle?
     
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    Someone hasn't opened a text book recently and learned the difference between the Mujahideen, Taliban and Al Qaeda...
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    Butthurt is a terrible thing.
     
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    It's just misdirection Right Wing style, hold up a figurehead who you think appeals to a lot of people, while if he were alive today, would be rejected by the GOP as a liberal. What ever flies with the suckers is the only standard, look at Trump... :rolleyes:
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    What's the distinction you think is important between these groups?
     
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    I'd rather not. I've just eaten.
     
  21. FieldingMellish, Jun 18, 2016
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    Yeah. Just like the conclusion on global warming, you're peddling revisionist crap.

    On the similar subject,

    The difference between Reagan and Obama is that Reagan loved America and sought to protect it's citizens. Obama has miserably failed on this, so badly, you have to wonder, was it far-ranging ineptness, or by design?

    Take ISIS, for example, the ISIS that Obama helped create by taking all troops out and ignoring ISIS's rise, into the 30,000 member range as of 2015, and currently exporting terror all over with at least 90 attacks to ISIS's name. Good job, Obama!

    By extension, in my opinion, Obama is responsible for ISIS attacks on American soil thus far.

    Saudi Arabia offered to help with a collective force to put down ISIS command and control. Obama rejected that idea.

    Syria needs to be invaded and the command and control of ISIS dismantled. Obama will not do that.

    Dismantling ISIS in Syria, when successful, will allow the repatriation of millions of Muslims, which I assume that Obama also does not want to do.

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    As to Obama's allowing ISIS to rise and flourish:

    Beyond Beheadings
    ‘The Rise of ISIS,’ a PBS ‘Frontline’ Documentary

    For those whose knowledge of the Islamic State is limited to televised beheadings, “The Rise of ISIS,” on PBS’s “Frontline” on Tuesday, is required viewing.

    Reported by Martin Smith, the hourlong program takes the story of this brutal, ever-growing militant group back to ———> the final departure of American troops from Iraq in 2011. It’s a dense, fast-moving narrative focused on the failure of the Shiite-led Iraqi government to share power with the Sunni minority and ————> the inaction of the United States while Sunni militants exploited the situation for their own gain. Blame is placed, quite directly, on the former Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki ————> and on President Obama.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/28/a...of-isis-a-pbs-frontline-documentary.html?_r=0

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    As to Obama's cluelessness and zero concern over human life, knuckle-head Obama was the one that, when journalist James Foley was gruesomely beheaded, Obama spoke about it, then headed right onto the golf course.

    “Obama admits golf after Foley beheading was bad idea, wants vacation from media”

    “President Obama seemed to take one step forward and two steps back in the admission of wrong-doing department, saying that perhaps his golf game in the near-immediate wake of speaking about beheaded American journalist James Foley wasn’t the smartest idea — but then blaming the press.”

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/sep/8/obama-admits-golf-after-james-foley-announcement-w/

    Get that? Obama blamed the press.
     
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    Didn't Reagan make behind the scene deals with Iran, using US embassy hostages as pawns? Didn't Reagan shell Lebanon with 16" shells from the New Jersey? And didn't 241 service personnel pay the price for Reagan's mistakes in Lebanon?

    Imagine the GOP outcry if Obama or Hillary did this.
     
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    Apparently so, considering you're using the popular vote to justify something that happened during the middle of Reagan's second term.
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    The difference is that Obama hates America. Reagan didn't. Through that lens, I can justify anything.
     
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