Obamacare becoming more popular

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  1. kobalap macrumors 6502

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    More fake news:

    https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/obamacare-just-keeps-getting-more-183542539.html
     
  2. samcraig macrumors P6

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    Who knows. Even those that want change could be nervous about diving into the unknown. Sometimes the devil you know is better than the one you don't. Until the replacement for ACA is detailed to the public - I can see people eager to keep (at least) what they have
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    No true - these orgs pay a lot of money for them. They aren't cheap ;)
     
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    So let's go back to the devil we knew 20 years ago, when my premiums were 75% cheaper for better coverage.
     
  6. samcraig macrumors P6

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    Well that's never going to happen.
     
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    Why not? It worked then.
     
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    For you. Not others. Sick kids that blew through their lifetime caps while still just children doesn't work. People having their preexisting conditions denied or priced to impossible to afford levels doesn't work.

    Things just need to be fixed. Not destroyed. No need to reinvent wheels.
     
  9. tshrimp, Feb 2, 2017
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    You may not have gotten the update, but Obama is no longer in office, and Hillary Clinton did not win the election.
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    Better than what we have with the ACA :(. Healthcare costs have now really gotten out of hand, and something needs to be done. You don't like the old way, and the ACA is too expensive to purchase, and if you can the deductibles are way too high. Do you think just minor tweaking will fix this?
     
  10. SusanK macrumors 68000

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    Sounds like a plan. We can buy a luxury car for 30K too if we use your time machine.
     
  11. mrkramer macrumors 603

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    What does that have to do with the ACA continuing to become more popular. And if you are arguing the point of our president lying all the time you must have missed the fact that he lies more often than Clinton or the majority of other politicians from both parties.
     
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    Health care costs have increased 3 fold in the past 20 years according to the NHEA.

    That's why.
     
  13. A.Goldberg macrumors 68000

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    I am not surprised the ACA is gaining popularity as we get closer and closer to some sort of repeal or restructuring.

    The Republicans and Trump administration have failed to clearly describe their intentions around healthcare reform. Therefore people have no idea what to anticipate. People prefer the devil they know over the devil they don't.

    The ACA is a very flawed policy and I hope Trump can can iron out the kinks. That said, I'm nervous, as I imagine many are, we may end up with a worse situation than we're already in.

    Not that I have a ton of faith in polling, but the information still shows to me that the majority of people are not happy with with the current ACA construction and desire some form of modification. I think that's sufficient reason to change things up when talking about something as significant as healthcare.
     
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    They could amend certain parts. Much of this nation's health can be improved with preventative care.
     
  15. martint235 macrumors regular

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    So what went wrong with ACA then?

    I don't see how any 1st world country can argue against affordable health care for all citizens? We have issues with our NHS but at the end of the day, any resident of the UK can walk into an NHS hospital and receive care free at the point of delivery.
     
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    Well now it doesn't work for me. It's BS.
     
  17. iapplelove macrumors 68040

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    I have been saying this for over a year now!
     
  18. daflake macrumors 6502a

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    Of course it is popular... If you don't have it, you get fined. It is a self-licking ice cream cone of popularity!
     
  19. R.Perez macrumors 6502

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    Right wingers are the best. News they don't like? It's fake!

    If healthcare was "perfect" 20 years ago and the first ACA provisions went into effect starting in 2011 and finished being implemented in 2014, the ACA is probably not the source of all your woes.

    Healthcare is complicated. Foreign policy is complicated. Your overly simplistic worldview doesn't work.

    Of course the ACA is more popular right before the GOP is planning to snatch it away from people. Selling across state lines doesn't work. High risk pools don't work. The ACA is essentially the ONLY private sector solution to health care.

    The only other options are a public insurance option or single payer. But OMG, that's socialism!!!!!!
     
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    I agree

    Single payer is not an option economically. It will tank the economy.
     
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    Sounds like a non profit single payer plan is needed.
     
  22. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    Because America is so exceptional it is incapable of using a system that literally every other civilized nation on the planet has been using for decades.
     
  23. s2mikey macrumors 68020

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    Right - because ultimately this is about those that "have" must pay for those who "dont have". Its also a function of the medical industry being so bloated and corrupt that the costs for medical procedures is insanely high for no reason other than too many hands being in the jar so to speak. Get costs under control and start making people take responsbility for their health and things will get better. I understand that people get sick through NO fault of their own. But plenty of health issues CAN be prevented through good chooces and healthier living. Oh. THAT. But that cuts into my crappy eating, sedentary lifestyle, and various other bad choices.

    1) Get costs under control & get rid of bloat
    2) Provide incentives - aka lower costs to those that take control of their own health
    3) Keep the Govt out of it as much as possible
    4) Allow choice and create competition between insurance and the industry as a whole

    That'll do it.
     
  24. martint235 macrumors regular

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    Unfortunately when you have a situation where someone who has little NEEDS something that requires those with a lot who need nothing to pay for it, you will require Govt intervention.

    You'll also find that crappy eating in particular is endemic amongst the poor of any developed country (not just the US) because crappy food is cheaper. Yes it is better to provide preventative healthcare than to pick up the pieces afterwards (also cheaper) but again you're probably going to need Govt involvement
     

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