Obamacare's Secret Success

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  1. jnpy!$4g3cwk, Nov 29, 2013
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    jnpy!$4g3cwk macrumors 65816

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    So, despite all the bad publicity, the ACA is having a positive impact on rising healthcare costs:

    [lots more good news omitted]

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/29/opinion/krugman-obamacares-secret-success.html?src=me&ref=general

    Honestly, if I lived in a state that has been fighting the ACA and I had a problem obtaining healthcare coverage, I would strongly consider moving to a state that has been successful at implementing a state exchange. The below article is helpful. The top states so far are (it is hard to copy the
    sortable formatted table - please see the original to completely see it). Here are two different views
    of the table:

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    Connecticut STATE 18,815 6,490 4,418 2,310 191%
    Rhode Island STATE 9,581 3,447 1,192 840 142%
    New York STATE 23,902 16,404 15,260 107%
    Colorado STATE 45,575 3,736 6,440 58%
    California STATE 192,489 79,519 35,364 91,000 39%
    Minnesota STATE 31,447 9,166 1,774 4,690 38%
    Kentucky STATE 76,294 28,676 5,586 15,400 36%
    Vermont STATE 5,540 1,411 1,325 3,990 33%
    Washington STATE 119,309 48,196 7,091 23,800 30%
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    California STATE 192,489 79,519 35,364 91,000 39%
    New York STATE 23,902 16,404 15,260 107%
    Washington STATE 119,309 48,196 7,091 23,800 30%
    Kentucky STATE 76,294 28,676 5,586 15,400 36%
    Connecticut STATE 18,815 6,490 4,418 2,310 191%
    Colorado STATE 45,575 3,736 6,440 58%
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------

    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/10/04/us/opening-week-of-health-exchanges.html?ref=us
     
  2. Huntn macrumors G5

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    But we conservatives don't want to hear this, just the train wrecks and disasters. :p
     
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    Yeah, well explain the NSA, huh? :mad:

    ...oh, and Benghazi, too.
     
  4. malman89 macrumors 68000

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    The NSA's overreach started under W after 9/11, but yes, Obama does not get a free pass for failing to restrict/reform the organization and harshly targeting whistleblowers.

    Benghazi was just a complete screw up though.
     
  5. localoid macrumors 68020

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    NSA overreach began decades before 9/11.

    During the 1970s, the Church Committee, more formally known as the United States Senate Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations with Respect to Intelligence Activities, published fourteen reports about abuses of law and of power committed by NSA and various other U.S. intelligence agencies.
     
  6. macquariumguy macrumors 6502a

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    That's the great thing about Obama. Don't matter who you are, he's done something you can be mad about. :)
     
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    You mean Barack HUSSEIN Obama? :mad:

    Actually, the NSA thing is something you can use on everybody, regardless of political affiliation. It doesn't matter if someone comes in and says "well, the democrats did this, this, this, and this", or "the republicans were responsible for all these good things over the last four years". All you have to say in response is...

    Yeah, well what about the NSA, huh?

    ...and it'll work.

    It's the great political conversation stopper.
     

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