Officer kills man through car door in his driveway

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  1. jkcerda macrumors 6502a

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    https://news.yahoo.com/sc-cop-indicted-shooting-shrouded-mystery-083958497.html

    amazing, shot through the door & only gets a misdemeanor charge.
     
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    No excuse, but I have a feeling with how fast news is getting around, I think we are finally seeing how bad things are down in the southern section of the US. Again not all... as we have had a few incidents in the north that have had the same out come.

    At least the officer was brought up on charges. I am curious as to why they only chose to file a misdemeanor on him and not the full felony.
     
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    That's nothing. Yesterday the Seattle police approached a car and the driver shot himself. The cops thought they were taking fire and riddled the car and already dead driver. Cops weren't even walking towards this particular car, but the dude had an outstanding warrant and must have believed they were going to arrest him. Crazy.
     
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    The Grand Jury made this decision. The prosecutor put this forward for indictment. Big question is why? A Grand Jury is made up of members of the public.
     
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    This deflects from the topic. the question that still needs to be asked and answered is:

    Why was deadly force used when the suspect was slowing down and parking his own car, when there was possibly no sign of life being in eminent danger?

    Securing the suspect is one thing; killing him is another, especially if the suspect was not armed.

    Something does not sound right with this incident, especially with the Grand Jury, but one thing is guaranteed: this LEO's career is over, and rightfully so.

    BL.
     
  7. Southern Dad macrumors 68000

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    There isn't an explanation for a lot of human behavior. Obviously this was not department policy.
     
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    So let me get this straight. If this obviously wasn't part of Augusta PD's policy, are they free and clear to shoot first, then ask questions later? If so, that entire police department needs to go back to the academy for retraining on their assessment skills, because if what is reported here is true, there was no need for their sidearms to be discharged. Drawn possibly, yes, but not discharged, as there was no eminent danger of life being threatened.

    I can only imagine how anxious LEOs in your state must be after this incident, because it surely would put every PD's policies under scrutiny.

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  9. Menel macrumors 603

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    They are dealing with packs of terrorists.

    Missouri for example, they assaulted and burned civilian owned businesses. They group in packs and attack squishy unarmed targets. Working in the inner city is much like the middle east in many respects.

    Dealing with uneducated, violent extremists puts people on edge. Then accidents occur.
     
  10. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    Figure revised ... 99.98%

    (including rounding errors)
     
  11. vrDrew macrumors 65816

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    Lets take a closer look at this, shall we.

    According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, South Carolina has about 11,000 sworn officers. Meaning that in any given year, roughly one out of every 260 sworn officers will shoot someone (0.38%). Extrapolating that over a 20 year career, you end up with the conclusion that there is a 7.8% chance that the average police officer in South Carolina will draw his service weapon and shoot someone. And slightly less than half of those shootings will end up with someone dead.

    Thats an appalling statistic. And I think it gives lie to the claim that "99%" of police officers never shoot anyone. At least in South Carolina.

    On the other hand, at least one South Carolina officer has been shot and killed in the line of duty this year. Deputy Sheriff Joe Matuskovic was shot and killed by a suspect firing an AK-47 type assault rifle through an apartment door. Remind me again why civilians need AK-47s? Because had the suspect been firing a handgun it is all but certain the Deputy's ballistic body armor would have saved his life.
     
  12. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    Are you calling a 68-year-old black great-grandfather a terrorist?

    Or are you just ignoring the subject of the OP?
     
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    The second one.
     
  14. jkcerda thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    you assume the bullet went through the armor.
     
  15. Southern Dad macrumors 68000

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    Obviously this is not department policy. The officer clearly violated protocol.

    How many citizens and visitors does South Carolina have in a given year? What percentage of them were not shot by cops?
     
  16. Menel macrumors 603

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    1. Work on your reading comprehension.

    2. Yes, I was. I responded to Skunk, he is not the OP. Thats what the quote block is for. Thats how forums work. Hopfully you enjoyed the lesson, you're welcome.
     
  17. vrDrew macrumors 65816

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    They did.

     
  18. Menel macrumors 603

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    We dont have enough information. =\ and may never.

    Its possible the prosecuter feared a riot, ala MO. Tensions are high. And the Grand Jury saw through it. There are all sorts of potential scenarios which arent public record.
     
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    More likely as it was "only" a black man killed and it is the south...
     
  20. jkcerda thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    you mean the jury? the prosecutor wanted the manslaughter charge.
     
  21. Menel macrumors 603

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    Yes yes.
    I mean the prosecutor wanted manslaughter charge because if he dismissed charges, he *may* have feared a riot and media storm such as Ferguson, Zimmerman and others. Similarly racial charged scenarios where charges werent filed initially.

    Then the Jury got whatever evidence, and lessened it. What that evidence was and circumstances... Must have been compelling...
     
  22. jkcerda thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    could be the jury was racist :eek:
     
  23. Sydde macrumors 68020

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    some additional information:
    It appears that the victim may have been previously charged with a DUI + driving while suspended, though the record was later expunged.

    The question of hit-and-run driving is a pretty serious one. On the other hand, a police officer who is out-of-jurisdiction should not be drawing their weapon unless they have been attacked. The Edgefield police probably had a better idea who they were dealing with than the North Augusta police.
     
  24. Menel macrumors 603

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    :rolleyes: seems a severe stretch...
     
  25. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    Not really, this is the South we are talking about here.

    The prosecutor is hardly likely to go for an excessive charge against a police officer, they have to work together all the time.
     

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