Oil Tanker siezed by Pirates

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    A tanker carrying 266,000 tons of crude worth $200 million been siezed by pirates 400 miles southeast of Muscat in Oman.

    Pirates based in Somalia are now ranging farther out into the Indian Ocean than ever before.

    From the article:

    At the moment, shipping companies continue to pay tens of millions of dollars to ransom their ships back from the pirates - money that is used to maintain and supply the pirate "fleet" operating out of Somali waters.

    Obviously new efforts need to be made to curb Somali piracy. The ultimate solution is the creation of some sort of functioning Somali state that will abide by international law. But in the meantime, what do we do? An effective naval blockade of Somalia to contain and capture/destroy pirate ships would be dangerous and incredibly expensive. Unless we change international law, we cannot arm merchant ships with any sort of offensive weapons. Convoy with naval escort would be an effective way of stopping attacks, but would shipping companies and UN member nations be willing to commit the necessary force and levels of cooperation? It's only ever been attempted in the modern era under war conditions. Would it be better to focus efforts on stabilizing the political situation in Somalia? We've not made much progress there in the last 10 years.

    Perhaps the threat to oil (the magic word) will spur governments to greater efforts? So far the pirates have proven quite slippery; for every pirate ship hunted down by naval vessels, several successfully capture and escape with their victims.
     
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    To cute them into surrendering?

    [​IMG]
     
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    "To cute them into surrendering" suggested that you had no idea what happend to Maersk a few years back.

    Oh, and I only had to wait a few weeks for Arrandale so everything is good ;)
     
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    The SEALs are only effective against pirates when they can find them, which isn't all that often. Simply sending more naval vessels into the area to mill about looking for pirates is not the best use of our resources.
     
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    So they don't know where the tanker with $200 million dollars worth of oil is? haha. I'm sure they could find the pirates there...
     
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    Um, I don't see how you got that out of a one-liner joke.:confused:

    I'll explain it to you: See, I took the word "Seal" that you used, and instead of going the Navy SEAL route, I went with the cute little chubby animal route. The joke is that baby seals are so cute that they would cause the pirates to surrender purely due to their cuteness. See what I did there?


    Anyway, I'm a little suspicious about your participation in this thread due to your username.

    :p
     
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    If sending in your beloved SEALs works so well, why haven't they been doing it every time a ship is captured? Only a handful of captured ships have ever been successfully stormed, even though most of them have been tracked. But once they turn off their GPS beacons, even a large oil tanker can become pretty invisible in the expanse of an ocean.
     
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    lol cute joke. If you were informed at all, you would know that in that context, seal was referring to "Navy Seal."

    We are the pirates of ECU Arggg
     
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    They wouldn't because Americans are not involved, but 200 million in oil is important enough :D
     
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    I'm still lost Surely, can you go on a bit more?:D
     
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    ^^^^^hehehe. What up, tigres?:p

    Um....really? When you suggested to send in the Seals, you weren't referring to the animal-type? I'm shocked. Shocked.:eek: <---sarcasm (just in case you missed it)

    I even saw this movie when it was still playing in the theatres.
    [​IMG]


    Back on topic: If the SEALs are the best option, then they should be involved (if appropriate). However, I have a feeling that they are more like a last resort option.
     
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    I'm sure the oil companies don't mind raising pump prices a few cents to cover the costs of ransom.
     
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    1. Lacking a sense of humor.
    2. Said or done without humor: "She winked at me, but it was humorless; a wink of warning" (Truman Capote).

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    Navy seals = dark blue walrus type creatures?
     
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    The only effective way to deal with modern pirates is to feed them a steady diet of spaghetti and meat balls. It may take a while, but inevitably they will be touched by His Noodly Goodness, see the error of their ways, and return to the proper style of piracy as fun-loving explorers who distribute candy to children.
     
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    The French navy has, I believe, spent a good amount of time hanging out down there and picking up pirates. Some particularly dumb pirates actually attacked a French battleship a couple years ago. Oops! :p

    This kind of piracy will only come to an end when the lawlessness in Somalia finally gets worked out.
     
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    "Dangerous and incredibly expensive?" Hmmm... that didn't stop us from going into Iraq - but certainly that wasn't about oil. ;)

    Durf. :D

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    I would not mind durfing his wife.:p
     
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    I remember that ... bet the Pirates were shocked to find some serious *ss whoopin on board.

    One thing I still don't get with these Pirates is ... how do they get away with the cash? ... seems too easy to track the ransom money.
     
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    Double durf.

    I call firsties.

    :D
     

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